Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aftermath (American band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  18:51, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Aftermath (American band)

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Fails WP:BAND: no label, no awards, etc... The trademark case that was argued as a reason to keep in the previous AFD should really be WP:BLP1E applied to a band. The Dissident Aggressor 19:19, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 19:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep I added the sources where requested and some additional ones as well. They include issue dates for magazines and cites for the book mentioned in the articleZoident (talk) 16:55, 5 September 2015 (UTC)Zoident — Zoident (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * The band reformed in 2015. Shadow Kingdom Records and Divebomb Records are both reissuing the bands music.  In addition, they played their first European concert as part of the Headbanger's Open Air fest in Hamburg, Germany this summer.  Don Kaye was a New York based journalist in the 1980s and 1990s.  He wrote for various music magazines including Kerrang. He selected the band's Words that Echo Fear demo as one of the ten best for 1988 in Kerrang.  Zoident (talk) 20:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC)Zoident — Zoident (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * It appears Zoident is related to the band's NN label - Zoid Recordings. The Dissident Aggressor 19:37, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The article now includes specific issue dates for all the magazines listed. Moreover, additional citations were added for websites, including blabblermouth.net covering the band's reunion. The original author of AfD referenced the lack of label information. All record labels that have released the band's material are now listed, including past and current labels. Shadow Kingdom and Dovebomb Records are currently reissuing the band's music. Even the author of the Delete for now referenced that he or she found an article calling Aftermath pioneering. In the May 1999 issue of College Music Journal (CMJ) they refer to the band as "Aftermath a popular demo band from the 1980's...." on page 51 of that issue.
 * I believe the lack of specific citations has been resolved. The band's inclusion on Wikipedia should be confirmed. Furthermore, I have taken the appropriate steps to adhere to the neutral aspects of contributing to the article by relying on facts and third party sources. A quick google search for Aftermath Eyes of Tomorrow will reveal numerous articles on the band not referenced in the article and sites selling the band's music including iTunes and Amazon.2601:246:4300:7AFC:6CA0:FFAF:8576:8CB (talk) 18:30, 7 September 2015 (UTC)Zoident


 * Keep Multiple sources exist that aren't present on the article. See this for one. There are small reviews also. Combined with the sources already present, this article easily passes WP:MUSIC and WP:GNG. The Undead Never Die (talk) 00:05, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete I am unable to confirm that these are WP:RS.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:09, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete for now as although the sources I found at Books, News and highbeam seem good and one of them said they were pioneering, it summarily comes to a still unsourced article. SwisterTwister   talk  05:19, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You just admitted to finding reliable sources but still vote to delete? Why don't you add the sources to the article? The Undead Never Die (talk) 00:58, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95  Talk  10:53, 7 September 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:14, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


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