Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Age of Kings (Middle Ages)


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Age of Kings (Middle Ages)

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User:Quuxplusone already stated the problems with this stub pretty well on the article's talk page, so I'll just quote him:


 * This stub article was created by an anonymous user. I have not found any online resources that refer to a medieval "Age of Kings" (although admittedly it's difficult, what with the computer game). This article smells strongly of a student extrapolating a definition for a chapter title in some high-school history textbook. Can anyone provide a reference to a reliable source using the term "Age of Kings" to denote a time period in real human history? Can you provide two sources, to show that the term has a somewhat recognized, non-idiosyncratic meaning? --Quuxplusone 08:01, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

That comment was made four years ago, and in the time since, the article has not since been improved with any references to support that this is an actual term used in any consistent way by historians or as anything other than a non-precise, non-technical, dramatic-sounding synonym for the Middle Ages. The first sentence of the article defines the term as "The Age of Kings was an age in European history in which nations were ruled by kings." That...pretty much describes the Middle Ages, and is also fairly imprecise, as even today some European nations remain monarchies. As User:Quuxplusone remarked, "This article smells strongly of a student extrapolating a definition for a chapter title in some high-school history textbook."

—Lowellian (reply) 05:13, 14 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete for the reasons outlined in my nomination summary. —Lowellian (reply) 05:17, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete not a legitimate Age of European history. Most likely to be a reference to Age of Kings the computer game.  Not a reasonable search term so not worth a redirect.  MLA (talk) 07:00, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete I've not come across the term used in this way except in the context of the computer game either. It isn't a useful way of understanding Eurpoean history, even for school-children. AJHingston (talk) 11:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete no refs, no el. This is indeed from the game AoE.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 16:34, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:14, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete The phrase is used entirely within the game context, although it is likely to be a nod to the use of similar phrases by historians such as Age of sail via phrases by less formal history students such as 'age of cannon'. I disagree with AJHingston;s assertion that it not useful; it is not too bad a definition. More to the point is that only AoE uses it. Not notable. Sorry AoE, fans, and article creator, WP does not work that way. Anarchangel (talk) 00:43, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I can imagine that the Age of Kings title might appeal to the makers of a TV series as it did to a computer game. But as an historical epoch it is fraught with definitional problems - does it begin with Charlemagne? Does it end in 1789 or 1918, or some other date? How does it relate to the history of Italy, or Germany, or Britain for that matter? The definition is not inherent in the name, and would have to be established by usage, which is why notability is important and on which we have a consensus. AJHingston (talk) 11:34, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
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