Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ages of Myst V: End of Ages


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was No consensus. M ercury  16:10, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Ages of Myst V: End of Ages

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This article asserts no notability through reliable sources, and as such is just an in-universe repetition of plot elements from the Myst game articles. As Wikipedia is not a gameguide, this material is not appropriate for the encyclopedia, is also entirely duplicative and can be safely deleted. Judgesurreal777 04:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete: I see no reason to have a separate article for this. At best, I can see a merge to Myst V: End of Ages. - Rjd0060 04:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep: Wikipedia has always had large volumes of fictional information. I see no reason to delete it just because it describes fiction. (Why do we keep the article on Luke Skywalker?) Judgesurreal seems to be primarily in the business of deleting fictional articles. &mdash;EatMyShortz 05:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, my motives are not in question, but this articles notability. It is safe to assume you do not understand wikipedia policies, so start here WP:FICTION, and you will see what makes this different from an article on, say, Skywalker. Judgesurreal777 05:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep: Useful information for fans of the Myst series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ToriaURU (talk • contribs) 05:20, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Useful is not a keep criteria.Judgesurreal777 05:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Useful information as useful as any other "fiction" related article on Wikipedia. Why do we even bother having any books mentioned then on Wikipedia?  Are they all fictional and therefore useless?  Why not delete all the fictional stuff about TV shows then?  What's the use of them? That's the arguement I see you presenting to me. ToriaURU 05:33, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sigh, please read this WP:FICTION, you do not understand what this debate is about until you do. Judgesurreal777 05:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll happily work to integrate it into the existing Myst V articleToriaURU 17:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - per nom and Rjf0060. An unnecessary, redundant, non-notable, gameguide. Need I say more? Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 05:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Integrate - there is already a main article about this game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myst_V:_End_of_Ages containing an out of universe description but with information about the ages limited to one line each. this article can be used to expand the original. Talashar 07:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep or at worst Integrate with the main Myst V article. This is just as notable, if not more, as an article about a fictional planet than only appeared in a single Star Wars book, and it keeps the main article from getting too long. It is also consistent with other Myst titles on Wikipedia having a separate 'Ages of' page. - Luiswulf 13:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Twenty Years 15:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletions.   --Gavin Collins 12:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - As Luiswulf points out above, this article is just as valid as many other articles on fictitious locations. I think there might even be reason enough not to delete articles on each age individually, if they were to exist (note: I'm most certainly not suggesting they're created - this single article suffices very well). At the very least, merge into the parent article, but I feel that this stands up on its own. The Islander 16:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It needs to establish notability through reliable sources, which it currently doesn't do at all, otherwise why merge it? Judgesurreal777 17:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Notability (N) and it's related guidelines deal with the suitability of entire articles, not content of articles, so even if this is not suitable as it's own article, whether a merge into an article that already obviously satisfies N (ie. the article for Myst V itself) would be appropriate would depend on the "content-of-articles" inclusion policies and guidelines: Verifability, No original research, and What Wikipedia is not -- information not notable enough for it's own devoted article may still be suitable for inclusion in a preexisting article, although perhaps trimmed if needed, depending on how it satisfies those, so that needs to be examined before deciding to delete, merge, or keep. mike4ty4 00:32, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment - Wikipedia isn't a game guide, but StrategyWiki:Myst V: End of Ages/Ages is. Transwikied. -- Prod-You 15:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * delete Not needed. Just keep it in the main Myst V article. No notability outside of the individual game itself. Cackalackakilla (talk) 20:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.