Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agile Networks


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. &mdash;SW&mdash; spout 21:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Agile Networks

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Declined CSD. References are trivial mentions that don't support notability. One possible non-trivial coverage (behind registration-wall) but one reference is not enough to support notability. Written in a promotional tone and not possible to be re-written in an acceptable manner due to lack of sourcing. Liv it ⇑ Eh?/What? 15:23, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:53, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
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Darraghonline (talk) 21:14, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * In response to the original criticism there are now 6 references included, all from external third party sources. The publications include industry publications in the UK (CRN) and Ireland (silicon republic) as well as the online version of Ireland's main evening daily newspaper - the Evening Herald. Additional details of the 100MB Schools Broadband project can be added to indicate the national importance of this project which is part of the Irish Government's "Programme for Government". I am the original author of this entry, my first on Wikipedia, so apologies for getting it published in an incomplete manner.
 * Comment The references still aren't very good:
 * May or may not establish notability; can't read without registration/subscription.
 * Fingal County Enterprise Board isn't a reliable independent third-party source: this is just a press release. Can be included in references, but doesn't establish notability.
 * Very short (3 sentences).
 * The article doesn't mention Agile till near the end, and the source isn't notable enough to have a Wikipedia page, but may still be ok.
 * Doesn't mention Agile.
 * Final link appears to be wrong. Google can't find correct article.
 * It's debatable whether this establishes notability - is insideireland.ie a reliable source? Are any of the other sources substantial enough?  Are the missing link or the channelweb.co.uk link useful? --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:31, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

* References
 * 1 - CRN is the main channel publication for UK and Ireland with a sister US publication; it would be considered a mainstream publication for anyone working in IT


 * 5 - As per the article description this was released when Agile was Telindus Ireland; ie under its pre MBO name


 * 6 - corrected now, link should work and silicon republic would be considered the main source of news on IT within Ireland

I'm not qualified to say what makes a source substantial but all are external, unconnected, and with the exeption of Fingal CEB professional media organisations. I have also updated links within Wikipedia to Agile's customers as seven of the nine have their own entries within Wikipedia. Darraghonline (talk) 13:57, 14 March 2012 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 11:56, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete All trivial mentions or non-mentions. This is standard press-release stuff.  EEng (talk) 01:28, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - Here's an additional article, which doesn't appear to be sourced from a press release:
 * — Northamerica1000(talk) 22:31, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If you Google the opening sentence, A start-up company specialising in network integration, Agile Networks, is getting grant assistance of €80,000 from Fingal County Enterprise Board you'll find a score or more "newspapers" carrying exactly the same story. It's a press release. EEng (talk) 23:22, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If you Google the opening sentence, A start-up company specialising in network integration, Agile Networks, is getting grant assistance of €80,000 from Fingal County Enterprise Board you'll find a score or more "newspapers" carrying exactly the same story. It's a press release. EEng (talk) 23:22, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep while more references are added Comment - Found apparent references in Lightreading, a venue that is (IHO) THE publication of record for the telecom services and equipment industries but has the unfortunate problem for Wiki references that all tis content is behind a registration wall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdc wms (talk • contribs) 01:56, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
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