Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agnes Milowka


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The result was   keep. VernoWhitney (talk) 23:02, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Agnes Milowka

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Contested Prod. This article was created after the person died. Apparently she was not notable enough to have an article while alive, so I don't see what makes her or her death notable to have an article.— Mike  Allen   23:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete Quite tragic that this young woman died doing what she loved, but Wikipedia is not a memorial.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 07:28, 17 March 2011 (UTC) Struck my delete (see below)


 *  Delete  - Sources show this is a news item. Wikipedia is not a memorial site. -- Whpq (talk) 13:47, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Additional sourced added show coverage beyond just a news item. -- Whpq (talk) 10:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep there are several obituaries of her in reliable sources, they are full obituaries describing her entire life, not just the "one event" of her death. The nominators rationale is not based on Wikipedia policy. The timing of the creation of the article isn't a factor in WP:gng. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 05:56, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - very sad, but coverage of someone's death in obituaries certainly does not warrant inclusion. Coverage of her work as a stunt double unrelated to her death, however, could possibly do the trick. Did the trick, keep. Yaksar (let's chat) 06:37, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) got me thinking and User: Yaksar's comment got me digging. While the coverage of her death may have inspired the article, it turns out she WAS written of and she did receive coverage for more than "just her death"... and this coverage was before her death and was because of her career and records. The article is now being expanded and further sourced.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:07, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Posthumous awards are always regrettable in that they were given too late for the person to receive them in person, but no one would say that they are less of an award for being given after death, or that they were given because the person died. Similarly, a bio that contains among numerous other facts, the fact that the person has died, is not an article about that person's death. It is more than plausible that Milowka may yet receive more awards. International Who's Who of Diving, Diving Almanac. The Memorial criticism is quite tangential to the content and tone of the article. There are a number of citable facts establishing notability; the record for deepest dive into an Australian cave, work with National Geographic reporting on the Blue holes, and recovering 3000 year old fossils there, and the aforementioned stunt double work on James Cameron's film Sanctum; this article has the potential to become more than just the customary regurgitation of vital statistics and medals. Polish language radio interview recording and the English language transcript Anarchangel (talk) 21:34, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The bio and new citations were added after I made the nomination. This is the version I nominated.  It's quite clear she is notable for inclusion of Wikipedia and the article is not just a memorial of her death.  I withdraw the nomination as I now see "what makes her or her death notable to have an article". Thanks.— Mike   Allen   03:19, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
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