Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agostino von Hassell


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:41, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Agostino von Hassell

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This is a really bad article, though thankfully less bad after some of the worst was pruned. The subject appears to be a bit of a blowhard, that's not the problem: the article entirely fails to establish actual notability by reference to non-trivial coverage in reliable independent sources. Guy (Help!) 17:43, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete The strongest source is a profile in The Epoch Times. Not a major paper and most of the article is about the guy's relationship with his (unusually distinguished) ancestors.  His notability has to rest on his books of military history, published with Howell Press  which may be a small, vanity imprint, anybody know for sure?   What I can say is that I can't find any reviews of the listed books, or persuasive sources on the man or on his books.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:47, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No comment on the article, but Howell Press was a small military history publisher in Charlottesville, VA in the late 80s and 90s. I have no evidence that it was a vanity house. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 20:21, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep At least 3 of the books are by significant social academic publishers: IOS, St.Martins, Sage, and at least one Alliance of enemies by a significant general publisher, Thomas Dunne,, --and that book has over 500 library holdings. The writing section needs trimming to just the books. Adnd of course we need to find reviews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talk • contribs)
 * But note that those books are co-authored or chapters in.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:45, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * But can you find any sources about the subject? Teasing biographies out of sources that are not themselves biographical is a bit of a minefield. Guy (Help!) 08:32, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I did find a review of his co-authored cookbook, Military High Life: Elegant Food Histories and Recipes.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:45, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete The article subject is an author, so WP:AUTHOR applies. Any of the 4 tests there would indicate notability. 1) "Important figure" - no indication of that. 2) Originated "significant new concept" - no. 3) "Well-known work" - no. 4) "Significant monument" - no.  The "reviews" of his cookbook are rather weak. The publisher sent a review copy to the Secretary of Defense and a standard response came back. John Nagle (talk) 21:24, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete does not pass the notability requirements for authors.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:41, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Nothing dictates notability under WP:AUTHOR, W1i2k3i45 (talk) 17:21, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG. There is nothing significant about him.  The two sources are not reliable - both are freebie newspapers that have zero editorial independence (citing the Falun Gong/right-wing propaganda mouthpiece The Epoch Times makes somebody negatively notable, if that were possible). He's written some monographs, but there's no evidence they are cited widely; in fact, a Google scholar research shows between two and six cites per work, so he'd fail the prof test.  Normally, the numbers of library holdings matter, as does 's views, but I'm skeptical in this case, since one would expect more than a couple of cites if it were held in 500 libraries.  The gratuitous and trivial mention of a distant relative does not make him notable, either. Bearian (talk) 12:56, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Does not meet WP:GNG, and as John Nagle detailed, does not meet any of the WP:AUTHOR criteria.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:27, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
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