Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agraceful


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. (non-admin closure)-- Krazycev   13  other crap 21:21, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Agraceful

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My speedy deletion was declined, so I bring it here. I believe that Agraceful do not meet notability. Opinions?-- Krazycev   13  20:20, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

How don't they meet notability? 1)They've played with some of the biggest bands in their genres and been on some pretty huge tours 2) here is another source 3)They have been played continually on Radiou 4)They have over 2 million views on myspace, and 34,000 friends (not a real way to classify notability, but still...) GaudiumInVeritate (talk) 20:46, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Here is an audio stream from RadioU with Chris being interviewed. GaudiumInVeritate (talk) 21:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Additionally, there is no copyright violation, even if there was a copy and paste from last.fm, as that website can be edited by anyone. If you look at both sources currently on the article, you will see that they provide ample information to back up the current configuration of the article. GaudiumInVeritate (talk) 21:47, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 15:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete this band fails WP:BAND, is not notable. JBsupreme (talk) 16:39, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:42, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Gaudium, I didn't mention copyright infingement in this nomination. I did at a time, but not now.-- Krazycev   13  other crap 16:55, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep please see WP:BAND. I have provided one of the requirements: "Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network." I merely mentioned the copyright information, because I saw the last.fm page and noticed it was a copy/paste. GaudiumInVeritate (talk) 17:05, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete unless verified The only sources provided for this article's are primary sources, and therefor do not count towards as reliable sources towards the notability guideline. A search yields plenty of results, but if i start seeing Habbo Hotel at page two and The Pirate Bay at page 3 i have little faith that searching further will reveal reliable sources. Unless the articles notability claims can be verified trough reliable sources i am voting delete. The inclusion criteria is after all Verifiability, not truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Excirial  (talk • contribs)


 * Delete: I can't find significant coverage for this band. Joe Chill (talk) 19:42, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Changed to Keep: Passes criteria 11 of WP:MUSIC. Joe Chill (talk) 20:51, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete unless verified as noted by Excirial there are Google hits but most are to primary sources or those which would otherwise be defined as unreliable. coccyx bloccyx  (toccyx)  19:43, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand why everyone is saying delete, I provided the proof of notablility per WP:Band. GaudiumInVeritate (talk) 19:53, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * "Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network." The station only plays in Columbus, Ohio so it fails WP:MUSIC. Joe Chill (talk) 20:22, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

That is not true. The station plays many places in besides Columbus, Ohio. If you actually look on the RadioU website which I previous provided, you will see that there are stations in all of Central Ohio, Miami Valley, Central Coast, Seattle, Okalahoma City, and broadcasted on SkyAngel nationally in the form of TVU (which Agraceful's music video has appeared on). GaudiumInVeritate (talk) 20:43, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Keep I personally believe that Gaudium is right. I was overlooking a few factors. RadioU is in several areas, as he stated. If possible, I think this AfD should be withdrawen. I realize my nomination mistake.-- Krazycev   13  other crap 21:17, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


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