Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agre Pamppers


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Sonata Arctica. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:29, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Agre Pamppers

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Non-notable demo album. WP:MUSIC —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 17:47, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —  D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 18:40, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NALBUM (no media coverage of significance, did not chart, etc. etc.). TheJazzDalek (talk) 01:11, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Weak Keep - The relevant portion of WP:NALBUM is: "Demos, mixtapes, bootlegs, promo-only, and unreleased albums are in general not notable; however, they may be notable if they have significant independent coverage in reliable sources." However a Google news search returns several mentions in what appear to be reliable sources.  The problem is they're non-English sources so I'm not qualified to assess whether they constitute significant coverage.  There's also a surprisingly large number of GHits, considering it's a demo, but I can't immediately find any that are reliable sources.  In the absence of analysis of the foreign language sources I'm inclined to err in favour of assuming the article creator's good faith and accepting that Agre Pamppers is notable. - DustFormsWords (talk) 00:13, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete just a demo, fails WP:N.--Jimbo W junior (talk) 01:20, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Please note that per WP:NALBUM demos can be notable where they meet the general notability guidelines of "significant coverage in reliable independent sources". - DustFormsWords (talk) 01:28, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Sonata Arctica. Fails the relevant notability criteria - we have no evidence of significant coverage in secondary sources at this time. Ray  Talk 02:29, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm not sure I've even convinced myself on this one but I should point out this passage from WP:N: "If it is likely that significant coverage in independent sources can be found for a topic, deletion due to lack of notability is inappropriate unless active effort has been made to find these sources." - DustFormsWords (talk) 02:42, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I suspect our difference of opinion here hinges on relative levels of belief that significant coverage would be forthcoming. Based on a cursory glance off Google Translates of those pages, I don't believe these constituted significant coverage, but I could well be wrong. Ray  Talk 02:59, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.