Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agriculture,Farming,lumber,hunting and Fishing in Manchukuo and Mengchiang lands

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. Postdlf 18:25, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Agriculture,Farming,lumber,hunting and Fishing in Manchukuo and Mengchiang lands
Obviously written by a non-English speaker. It is so bad that I imagine this should be erased and started from scratch. Besides, there is already an article on Manchukuo. &middot; Katefan0(scribble) 03:57, May 1, 2005 (UTC) (Still think delete) It looks like the author is rewriting the article under a different title: Manchukuo and Mengchiang (agriculture, farming, lumber and fishing). Evidently, he has made excellent contributions, just needs help with the cleanup. Terrace4 16:33, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and give more time to cleanup. It's understandable and informative. Interestingly enough, their agriculture was 34% mice... Kappa 04:25, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even cleaned and rewritten, the scope of this article is way too broad. Who is going to search for that title? The potential content that's purely historical belongs in Manchukuo. The potential content that's current belongs in Manchuria. Also, it has the smell of a Babelfish copyvio... direct translation of a webpage is a derivative work. Feco 04:41, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, article as it stands is not encyclopaedic, fork. Megan1967 04:44, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete no one will search for this title as it stands. Ideally, this would be merged with Manchukuo and Manchuria, but extracting useful information from this may be more difficult than searching from scratch. Terrace4 10:32, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, the shame of it is that I think the author has good intentions, his English just isn't good enough to make anything comprehensible. &middot; Katefan0(scribble) 16:40, May 1, 2005 (UTC)


 * I think delete here, but the article he's doing to replace this is actually shaping up ok, with the help of Charles Matthews. "All for the best in this, the best of all possible worlds". Terrace4 16:56, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to that. And please do not use VfD as clean-up. And please be very ashamed of your attitude to unclear English. Charles Matthews 17:10, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll never be ashamed of expecting Wikipedia's articles to be of excellent quality. &middot; Katefan0(scribble) 22:22, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Won't the editorial process work more efficiently if shame is not involved in discussions as to the merits and deficiencies of articles? And why keep this title as a redirect, when no one is likely to put in a search for this particular title? The content has already been moved, we should keep the new article and remove this title. Terrace4 11:59, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup. The title could be made shorter. &mdash; RJH 19:13, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Why would you possibly want to keep this, when there's another version at Manchukuo and Mengchiang (agriculture, farming, lumber and fishing)? RickK 21:12, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete this version, don't take people to task for wanting to make non-English speakers create articles with intelligible titles and intelligible subject matter. RickK 21:11, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Any useful info can be merged into Manchukuo, if anyone wants to do it. &mdash;Lowellian (talk) 01:35, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, original analysis of regional statistics, no references are provided so the stats may not even be real--nixie 01:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
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