Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmad A'zam


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. article notability assertion improved by addition of reliable and verifiable sources thus I've withdrawn this AfD. Passes WP:BIO (non-admin closure) Eduemoni↑talk↓  16:21, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Ahmad A'zam

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Article looks like the subjects Curriculum Vitae filled with OR or HOAX statements, it does not cite any source correctly, however the main problem here it is the notability which cannot be established, a preliminary research only brought up local works and references, he is locally known, which does not provide a good context for his insertion on WP. Edue</b><b style="color:#D35">mo</b><b style="color:#E57">ni</b><sup style='color:green'>↑talk↓ </b> 20:49, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm not placing a vote on this until someone with proficiency in Uzbek checks for reliable sources. It's very difficult to work out whether A'zam really is who the article says he is. If he's really been director of a national television station, he should be notable. I can't find anything in a language I can read on him, and Uzbek isn't google translatable. --Anthem of joy (talk) 21:36, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment Guys, first of all not all the parts of the world speak only English. Secondly not everything related to Uzbekistan is available on the internet. Internet penetration in Uzbekistan is around 17%, so figure out yourself. I did my best to add sources and some external websites, to change the tone but suggesting that the guy is not the one who he claims to be is ridiculous. Also, saying that he is locally known and does not deserve to be mentioned on wiki is also very strange. You can delete all the writers from Uzbekistan on that basis as you don't know any of them. One suggestion I would give to you is google his name as it is written on Uzbek alphabet (copy/paste) - Аҳмад Аъзам. Or copy/paste exactly this: Ahmad A’zam. It seems " '  " and "  ’  " is the problem here. If you search "A  '  zam" results are different. But if you search "A  ’  zam" you will get there and can see that he is very well covered. Also I am new to wiki and at the moment it is not easy for me to edit/add information, so excuse my mistakes. For the record, I am uzbek and know the guy as well.Humoyoon  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Humoyoon (talk • contribs) 10:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment - I can't find a record about him on google news or scholar, and google search only returns social networks results like facebook, friendster, friendfeed. If you can add a reliable source, like a television station site with a citation about him I'd definetely conclude he is notable and I'd even withdraw this AfD. <b style="background:#FEE;padding:5px;font-size:10px"><b style="color:#913">Ed</b><b style="color:#C13">ue</b><b style="color:#D35">mo</b><b style="color:#E57">ni</b><sup style='color:green'>↑talk↓ </b> 03:59, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment - As I said not much info or source in english. Article on Ahmad A'zam says that he WAS director of Channel, that is also a problem. I found the below articles on the web in russian, can be translated through google. here is the link through google translate:


 * http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.library.cjes.ru%2Fonline%2F%3Fa%3Dcon%26b_id%3D319%26c_id%3D2743&act=url
 * Read section named "TV and radio stations, news agencies" you can see him as Ahmad Azam, 1-channel-- General Manager - Ahmad Azam. 1st channel is also known as "Uzbekistan" channel.
 * Also you can read translation of this article:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.centrasia.ru%2FnewsA.php%3Fst%3D1053550260
 * Go to 4th paragraph, it mentions him as a director of 1st channel.
 * Try this search link as well, skip social networks and etc, you can see many websites publish his works - http://www.google.com/#q=Ahmad+A’zam&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1280&bih=640&prmd=ivnso&ei=I7DTTfywKI7evQPRgaHBDQ&start=0&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=eac976dd6587aef2

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Humoyoon (talk • contribs) 11:26, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - Since you provided verifiable sources to showcase his notability I'm withdrawing this AfD. <b style="background:#FEE;padding:5px;font-size:10px"><b style="color:#913">Ed</b><b style="color:#C13">ue</b><b style="color:#D35">mo</b><b style="color:#E57">ni</b><sup style='color:green'>↑talk↓ </b> 16:17, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the list of Uzbekistan-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 19:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 19:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
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