Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Ibrahim Salman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. per sources identified during the discussion Star   Mississippi  01:59, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Ahmed Ibrahim Salman

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Reviewed under New Page Patrol. Zero references except to an entry in a database. Was tagged for the by a different NPP'er a month ago. No indication of notability under GNG or the current SNG. North8000 (talk) 19:41, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football,  and Israel.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:17, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. There is no coverage in the article and I didn't find any during a short search. Alvaldi (talk) 20:19, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:37, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - there are sources out there if you search under the Arabic and Hebrew names, player with 20 appearances in the Israeli top flight. GiantSnowman 08:02, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment The Hebrew sources I looked at are very thin, they are just Hebrew statistic websites like soccerway or soccerbase. Considering he plays top flight football in Israel I thought there might have been more. I think you would need someone like to look into this. Govvy (talk) 11:20, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping . I will have a search soon. Unfortunately not so free rn, so I hope I will be able to do so before the AFD closes, and wish this was brought up in a different forum since WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. Pinging who can help with searching in Arabic. --SuperJew (talk) 17:29, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I've found these:, , . Nehme1499 10:42, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per existence of sufficient sources for the WP:GNG, also noted Snowman before me. The qualification "zero references", not an argument for delete anyway, no longer applies. Do rename to Ahmed Salman per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE. gidonb (talk) 16:07, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep passes GNG and BEFORE.--Ortizesp (talk) 23:30, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep quite a few sources about him in Hebrew describing his talent and up and coming career, including interest from Europe (by Dynamo Kiev, Zenit, Kortjik):, , , , , . There are probably more sources also in Arabic. --SuperJew (talk) 07:40, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I've gone over the sources above that come from three different publications. From one.co.il, this one (28.12.2021) discusses a transfer rumor and goes a little bit into his performance during his debut season. The other one (21.12.2021) is a match report that briefly mentions him and doesn't go towards GNG (which doesn't really matter as two sources from the same publication count as one in regards establishing notability with GNG). There are three sources from sport5.co.il. This one (29.12.2021) discusses the same transfer rumor as the one from one.co.il and is dated the day after. This one (22.12.2021) has one paragraph on the subject but like his career so far, its relatively short. The third one (22.12.2021) is a brief match report that mentions him once. Then there is the the one (22.12.2021) from Israel Hayom and as far as I can see it is a match report where he seems to be briefly mention for having scored his first goal. Note that all of the sources are from a span of a week in December 2021.
 * In my opinion these sources do not establish that he passes WP:GNG as they are neither significant enough, and even if they were, they are not from a sufficiently significant period of time, i.e. they are only a brief bursts of news coverage. However, he does seem to have the potential to gain coverage in the future so draftifying the article is probably the best course of action. Alvaldi (talk) 10:34, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The first one.co.il and the first sport5.co.il are not the same transfer rumour - the first is about Dynamo Kiev and Villarreal, the second about Zenit and Kortjik. The second one.co.il is about a man of the match performance. --SuperJew (talk) 13:15, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. Summarizing the sources thus far:
 * 1. AlArab: No sigcov
 * 2. AlArab: Fine source, counts towards the GNG
 * 3. Yahlla: No sigcov
 * 4. One: Fine source, counts towards the GNG
 * 5. Sport5: Fine source, counts towards the GNG
 * 6. Sport5: Contains a biography and analysis; brief but counts
 * 7. One: No sigcov
 * 8. Sport5: These are two great phrases; brief and just not enough
 * 9. HaYom: No sigcov
 * I count 4 fine sources, where 2 are needed. The mixed herring and salami approach, this article is about this and this about that, is an old AfD strategy and is quite boring. For example: this article is not about the company, it's only about who leads it, who invests in it, what they produce, and how much they make. Not recommended because it pointlessly prolongs discussions where Wikipedians could be working in the article space. gidonb (talk) 12:57, 8 May 2022 (UTC)


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