Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahsan Hameed


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Ahsan Hameed

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Bio of a Pakistani physician. Although some of the claims in the article sound impressive at first sight (discovery of a new strain of a pathogen, for instance), Hameed was just part of the team that accomplished this and not even its principal investigator (and even if he had done this all by himself, I don't think that discovering a strain of pathogen - a fairly commin thing, after all - makes one notable). The article also contains a few links to articles published in (mainly Pakistani) medical journals. GScholar indicates that one article published in the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology was cited 76 times, but Hameed was only second of three authors for that paper (the least important position). No other paper has received significant citations. Searching for "A Hameed" gives more results, but these seem to concern different people. Web of Science gives lots of articles for "Hameed A" (and even more for "Hameed A*"), but again this mostly concerns other people with the same name. (The JAAD article gets 43 citations in WoS, by the way). Restricting the search to those articles that list either Harvard or Shifa as affiliation, renders 7 papers, with 43 (JAAD), 21, 16, 5, 4, 1, and 0 citations (the last one appears to be a meeting abstract). There is one link in the article to a very short newspaper item, on a warning about overusing medicated soaps. Taken together, this does not appear to meet either WP:ACADEMIC or WP:N. Crusio (talk) 17:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.   —Crusio (talk) 17:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete not yet notable. A single paper that's moderately widely cited is not sufficient. DGG (talk) 19:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. According to a list of his publications he's published 17 papers; a number of these are in Pakistani journals whose importance I don't know, but among the remainder, Clinical and Experimental Dermatology, British Journal of Dermatology, Clinics in Dermatology & Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology are all reasonably prestigious international dermatology journals (despite the fact that we seem to lack articles on all of them). The paper that's been moderately highly cited appears to be a meta-analysis rather than a clinical study. Discovering a new strain of a parasite isn't particularly noteworthy. Membership of an editorial board of a national journal, while contributing to notability, certainly isn't sufficient alone. I'm uncertain of the prestige of Shifa College of Medicine, but according to our article, it seems to be a small college founded in 1999 so that I am not sure that even a head of department would be inherently notable (also the college website doesn't list him as head of department). The only evidence that he teaches at the Harvard School of Dental Medicine comes from the SkinDoc website; he doesn't seem to be listed in their faculty. All in all, this seems an average academic record, insufficient as yet to meet WP:PROF. Espresso Addict (talk) 20:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per DGG and detailed analysis by Espresso Addict. Could not find enough to establish notability under WP:PROF either, nor WP:BIO.--Eric Yurken (talk) 01:34, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. This article was created by, who signed themselves as "Professor Dr. Ahsan Hameed Professor of Dermatology" here: (as well as including a lot of irrelevant promotional links to Hameed's web profiles). Espresso Addict (talk) 13:32, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:ACADEMIC at present. Abecedare (talk) 23:03, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


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