Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aida Nikolaychuk


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Withdrawn by nominator. The point of this nomination was to draw attention of users interested in the topic (and others) that could help improve the article in question. It has indeed worked. Thanks everyone for their comments. Küñall (talk) 19:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Aida Nikolaychuk

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Article makes extensive use of non-reliable sources. Since I don't read Ukrainian, I can't check if this girl is actually notable in her home country. Küñall (talk) 02:12, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Please help me make sense of your action. You admit that "you can't read Ukrainian and you can't check if this "girl" is actually notable in her home country"??... Then, with all due respect, and, assuming you were acting in good faith, not just mamando gallo by purposely disrespecting Aida and calling her a "girl", then what are you doing here? and why did you stick your nose where it obviously doesn't belong? and why did you interfere with the flow of a newly created article, and requested to delete a subject that you know nothing about, that you have never researched and, by your own admittance, you are incapable of understanding? Don't you believe that your free time is better spent on learning English and when to use "whether" instead of "if" (after you gave yourself a license to attack my English in bad faith)? How would you like it if I requested deletion of the article on the wonderful Chilean singer Myriam Hernández, solamente pa molestar, and to interfere with the flow of that good article? This is what you did here!... except that you made a hard task harder and less enjoyable. Worldedixor (talk) 19:32, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - The Ukrainian x-factor pages can be ignored but http://www.berlin24.ru/news/254-aida-nikolaychuk-v-berline.html/ etc. are reliable. Notability established in Ukrainian sources In ictu oculi (talk) 03:05, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * STRONG KEEP... This an extremely uninformed and premature request for deletion - First, calling a "woman" like Aida a "girl" is sexist and inappropriate. This is not the same as "chica" or "niña" in certain countries. Most importantly, this is what happens when an "uninformed" user with little or no world experience and cannot even read Ukrainian rushes, in bad faith and without extensive research, to delete an article that has just been created about a notable and highly talented singer who is to the Ukraine "relatively" what Kelly Clarkson is to America, or what Myriam Hernández is to Chile (hint), and who is breaking the tough barriers of her very small country because she sings well in English. She is already signed with Sony Music. I spent time in extensive research for this article, and this user just comes rushing in to Rfd the article, again without any extensive research. I cannot defeat uninformed ignorance, especially if this user is and Admin, as I do not read neither Ukrainian nor Russian.  Also, since it is too early for Ukrainian and Russian fans to notice this article on the search engines, many of whom may not have the competence in English to participate in this article or support keeping this article... I ask a non-biased Admin to rally Ukrainians to SUPPORT keeping this article and removing this premature and uniformed Rfd.  Also, many non-Ukrainian fans will need this article.  Worldedixor (talk) 07:24, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep (note: clarified the way the !vote was phrased Goldenshimmer (talk) 00:33, 23 October 2013 (UTC)) as involved editor. Goldenshimmer (talk) 14:20, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I should provide some rationale here… I think that the primary points of notability is are being signed with Sony Music and the third-party (not the X-Factor website) news coverage. She still might fail WP:BAND though. My two cents :) Goldenshimmer (talk) 17:40, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * User:Goldenshimmer, I didn't notice that the Sony signing refs - from Russian sources - were in the article when I supported, were they added after? Confirms the keep result anyway ... on a side note, where in the AfD guidelines does it say "When nominating for AfD do/don't run the original foreign language article through Google Translate" - I thought there was some mention, but can't find it. Would you or anyone else here know? In ictu oculi (talk) 00:00, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * User:In ictu oculi, I just added the Sony refs today when I reread the article for notability. I saw the Sony mention, and thought it indicated notability, but it was unsourced, so I found some sources and added them. I don't know about any policy for AfD regarding translations — sorry, I'm not totally up on my rules :(. After the AfD, I mentioned to the nom in IRC that I'd try to expand the article a bit. I discovered that the Uk Wikipedia already had a decent article, so I translated and merged it as best I could. (That's where the translation part came in.) I also added one or two extra refs, and removed some unsourced statements. I hope this helps :) Goldenshimmer (talk) 00:27, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Adding Sony refs: Expanding from Uk article:  Cleaning up a bit:  Goldenshimmer (talk) 00:31, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you User:Goldenshimmer. User:Küñall please see WP:BEFORE No.6 which asks editors to check eg Ukrainian wikipedia sources before submitting AFDs. No harm done but please note, all the best. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:26, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * User:In ictu oculi, just so you know, there wasn't an interlanguage link for this article when it was nominated for deletion, so it might have been hard to find the Ukrainian one. The letter of WP:BEFORE only mentions looking at interlanguage links, not necessarily doing more in-depth searching (although I certainly agree with your statement in terms of the spirit of WP:BEFORE). I added the interlanguage link with this edit: . Just my thoughts on why it might not have gotten uncovered sooner :) Goldenshimmer (talk) 14:44, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:16, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:16, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:17, 22 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep notable musician and popular artist in Ukraine. A merge to the show she won might be worth discussing. But deletion would be inappropriate. Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:40, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Aida is notable not only because some think of her as a girl or that she is from x-factor. Aida has a remarkable singing talent that would be a great loss simply to ignore. She astonished many regular people as well as specialists and critics by her signing performance. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 22:27, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Her voice transitions during singing are remarkable. She has a great feel for rhythm and power of her voice cannot simply be ignored. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 22:36, 22 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't delete. Aida Nikolaychuk is just a beginner and continues making a career after X-factor. Three singles and one video were released. Also she had a speech and photoshoot in Berlin. --ВікіПЕДист (talk) 19:01, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
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