Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aimeos


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  19:04, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Aimeos

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 * For background: This software is a fork of an older package called 'Arcavias' which has had an article deleted twice at AFD, here and here, as well as being speedily deleted as an advertisement a few times. This is important to know because the best two sources in the references section (heise.de and linux-magazin.de) mention only Arcavias. The rest are all either selfpublished or indiscriminate software listings. There is also a set of links under a 'literature' subheading, these all look to be reviews in very niche magazines/blogs. None look to be the sort of things we would generally use to indicate notability. I've searched and haven't found any other useful sources, so I think this ought to be deleted (again) per the general notability guideline and WP:NSOFTWARE. MrOllie (talk) 18:49, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. MrOllie (talk) 18:49, 18 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The Aimeos Open Souce project has been covered by several international print magazines like listed in the literature section:
 * Enterprise-Commerce, Midrange Magazine Issue 05/2016, ITP Verlag GmbH, ISSN 0946-2880
 * Enterprise-CMS = Enterprise-Commerce?, PHPmagazin Issue 2.16, Software & Support Media GmbH, ISSN 1619-7976
 * Flow-Commerce, web & mobile Developer Issue 1/16, Neue Mediengesellschaft Ulm mbH, ISSN 2194-4105
 * The article about Aimeos is
 * written from a neutral point of view
 * cites sources
 * is verifyable
 * has received significant coverage by reliable secondardy sources which are independent of the subject due to coverage in the print magazines by respected publishing houses reliable sources
 * MrOllie falsly uses the deleted article about Arcavias (the name is mentioned in the Aimeos article only for historical reasons and contrary to Aimeos, it had no siginificant coverage) as reason for deleting the Aimeos article as well. Nsendetzky (talk) 07:12, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing. --Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete due to lacking the in-depth reliable secondary sources that would it need to pass WP:NSOFTWARE. Also, the sources provided by the COI editor that they claim show notability are all sketchy and appear to be blogs. Usually there's more reputable sources covering opensource software if it's actually notable. So, I'm on the side of delete. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:15, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete due to the distinct lack of third-party, non-promotional sources; the digging through the rot takes galoshes and a closed node but turns up practically nothing substantial. The WP:COI smell in the casserole does not help, either. -The Gnome (talk) 09:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep because:
 * WP:NSOFTWARE states that it must be discussed in reliable (secondary) sources as significant in its particular field
 * Enterprise-Commerce, Midrange Magazine Issue 05/2016, ITP Verlag GmbH, ISSN 0946-2880
 * Enterprise-CMS = Enterprise-Commerce?, PHPmagazin Issue 2.16, Software & Support Media GmbH, ISSN 1619-7976
 * Flow-Commerce, web & mobile Developer Issue 1/16, Neue Mediengesellschaft Ulm mbH, ISSN 2194-4105
 * Aimeos, e-Commerce Framework and Online Shopping Solution, Review Aimeos e-commerce framework, PHP magazine
 * Aimeos Review, Review Aimeos e-commerce framework, FinancesOnline
 * WP:NSOFTWARE states that it is reasonable to allow relatively informal sources for free and open-source software, if significance can be shown
 * 10 TYPO3 COMMERCE SOLUTIONS, Comparison TYPO3 shop extensions, typo3worx
 * Laravel E-Commerce Open Source Top 4, Comparison e-commerce extensions for Laravel, Medium
 * Top 5 Shop-Extensions für TYPO3
 * Why to Develop an Online Store with the Laravel Aimeos Platform?
 * Aimeos review at saasworthy.com
 * Made with Laravel
 * Aimeos e-commerce components, Symfony.com
 * and may others found using Google search
 * Aimeos is the most widely used e-commerce software for Laravel, the most widely used PHP web framework
 * WP:COI: I'm only one contributor (nos3) in a large list of contributors which you can check in the GitHub repositories. I also contribute to many other Open Source projects including Laravel for which I've also improved its article in the past without problems.
 * Working on articles about template engines revealed software articles which seems to be much less relevant than Aimeos but are available for years without problems in Wikipedia like CTPP, Kid_(templating_language), Open_Power_Template, Thymeleaf, etc. Nsendetzky (talk) 16:22, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * As I stated in my vote your sources are all either trivial or not reliable. Please review the notability guidelines WP:GNG and WP:NSOFT before you re-post the same bad sources next time. --Adamant1 (talk) 18:21, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.