Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Air America-Gloria Wise loan controversy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Speedy Keep per withdrawal of the nomination by nominator. Ac e  tic  ' Acid  23:18, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Air America-Gloria Wise loan controversy
This issue should be part of the main air america article. The separate article is being used to maintain a POV fork. This account is a sockpuppet of the same individual of the 'Nagin Buses' POV fork. If the POV spin is eliminated from the article it would be short enough to fit in the main Air America article.

Adding to VfD page as it wasn't added properly before --badlydrawnjeff 13:51, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete --Gorgonzilla 14:51, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Obvious keep. This article was originally part of the Air America Radio article, and moved into its own for space considerations without protest.  Article is well-sourced, article is currently under dispute for POV issues (and has been brought to third opinion with no response as of yet), and POV issues should be dealt with within the article and is not a valid reason for deletion per WP's deletion policy. .  Finally, there's question as to whether this is a politically motivated VfD nominaton given the "Nagin Buses" reference, which doesn't seem to have any analogy to this article whatsoever. --badlydrawnjeff 14:57, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I am the one who split this into it's own article, and I did not do it for any POV reason whatsoever. I did it for space alone. It is a subject that it seems a few people want to discuss, and was taking over the entire AAR article. -- Lord Vold e  mort  (Dark Mark)  15:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Obvious keep. This article has important information about Air America.  The folks that are attempting to have this information completely removed from Wikipedia.  That is censorship and Wikipedia frowns upon censorship.  ---  --Keetoowah 15:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

OK I'll withdraw the VFD. I had assumed it was another 'Long John Silver' POV fork specials, see the First responder history for a surviving example of the genre.

I still think that the same points could be made more forcefully and effectively in far fewer words. In wikipedia the point is not space, its the reader's attention. Splitting off criticism into ghetto articles is a bad idea. --Gorgonzilla 16:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


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