Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ajay Ohri


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Primefac (talk) 13:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Ajay Ohri

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The article seems to be an attempt at personal branding. Neither of the person's works is substantial enough to merit an article. Decisionstats is a run-of-the-mill blog with feeble engagement. The books are mostly niche and technical; nothing groundbreaking. A simple Google search turns little more than a few related results for the person. Shubhamjain1 (talk) 12:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete a non-notable blogger.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:26, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Retain a writer with three published books (2 in Springer 1 by Wiley). One book translated in Chinese. The not so notable blogger hs ~ 1 million views as on site. Article has been on Wikipedia since two years.  Deletion attempt seems more like personal vendetta and targeting (see User Shubhamjain1 does not have a page anymore).
 * Is there any false statement on it? Notability for article has been achieved by writing books as well as articles and interviews
 * Writer has been featured in Wired Magazine as well as ReadWrite magazine. In addition he has been featured in KDNuggets as one of the five data scientists for " A Day in the life of a data scientist."
 * Judging by proposed criterion for deletion all scientists would be considered to have written niche and technical books.
 * 3 books in data science and mentioned in wired magazine, read write magazine, and kdnuggets. by repeatedly pointing out the blog, its obscuring the fact the author has been mentioned in magazines and written books. otherwise all data scientists would be non notable.
 * This is a clear personal attack by Shubham Jain for making sure business activities contribute to deletion rival blog. Shubham what have you contributed to wikipedia apart for this - that proves its a personal attack not one by honest editor.
 * Why the haste to put article for deletion tag and then delete page by ShubhamJain1?iwannacrib (talk) 04:26, 20 March 2018 (UTC)


 * It seems you are far more interested in personal attacks than presenting evidence for your defense. The person in the Google search isn't me and I don't have any association (of adversary or otherwise) with the person mentioned in the article. To answer your arguments: no, writing few technical books isn't enough criterion to merit an article. If that were the case, there would be an article for every O'Reilly author. Secondly, there are hardly any comments on the Decisionstats blog, or any press mentions, or any groundbreaking posts. All three are a close proxy for notability. If such low recognition is enough to warrant an article, Wikipedia would be inundated with hundreds of thousands of them.
 * My account is pretty old, but I don't use it very often. Again, if you think you're being unfairly targetted, you're better-off presenting valid criteria for notability which conforms to Wiki Guidelines than ad-hominems.  Shubham Jain (talk) 10:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   21:30, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Lets do this analytically. Let the editors with seniority see other activity by me and Shubham Jain, including logins, ip addresses, contributions and see who is fake, or targeting attack.
 * Book 1 - translated kin chinese 83,800 downloads of chapters http://www.bookmetrix.com/detail/book/4745085a-286a-4093-8b44-a2f50d800243#downloads
 * Book 2 - 30000 chapter downloads http://www.bookmetrix.com/detail/book/76ceb105-2e40-4a23-96cc-37d893063817#downloads
 * Book 2 review in Journal https://www.jstatsoft.org/article/view/v066b04/v66b04.pdf
 * ~iwannacrib~
 * perhaps my fault was not putting the right links for highlighting. iwannacrib (talk) 04:26, 20 March 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.82.114.102 (talk)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 07:07, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Retain page for necessary and sufficient notability
 * 1) Writer has written two books for Springer (a notable publisher) and one of the books is translated in Chinese
 * 2) Writer has written one book for Wiley (a notable publisher)
 * 3) Writer has written dozens of articles for Programmable Web (notable website) at https://www.programmableweb.com/profile/ajayohri
 * 4) Writer has been interviewed in " A Day in the life of a data scientist" by KD Nuggets (Notable web site)
 * 5) Writer has been mentioned both by Wired Magazine and ReadWriteWeb (notable websites)
 * 6) Additional notable writings have been mentioned with proper links in articles
 * Wikipedia has clear issues of notability. This author in data scientist meets it. This article enhances Wikipedia rather than diminishes it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iwannacrib (talk • contribs) 11:34, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * If you want to dispute the rules of Wikipedia about the notability criteria for biographies, you are free to do so at the appropriate forum. In fact, I'd encourage you to do so. Until the rules change, we abide by them. It's actually quite simple.
 * In the meantime, you accused a fellow Wikipedia contributor of something extremely serious: That he's engaging in a "personal vendetta" against you for financial gain. Do you have something tangible to back up such an accusation, or would you prefer to withdraw it, apologize, and focus on the article? I'd strongly suggest you follow the second path. Take care. -The Gnome (talk)

A google and linkedin search for Shubham Jain finds a blogger for another Indian blog analyticsvidhya.com. That was the basis. Since we live in a fog of who is who and who is anonymous- that was the rationale. Yes Wikipedia has self promoted articles. You have to be fair to each tech writer here. Otherwise people who create wiki pages will be discouraged and the spam page creators would have won Iwannacrib (talk

20:21, 11 April 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Comments by hitherto uninvolved editors would be helpful.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (talk) 09:58, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment So far, I see nothing in the sources that establishes independent notability. I see the subject of the article writing in blogs and interviewing various people, in specialist websites or blogs. Some sources do not even mention the subject, e.g. here. The only mention in a significant source is a single one in Wired, here. Also, there's a self-published book of poetry. It seems it fails WP:GNG and WP:NSCIENTIST. What am I missing? -The Gnome (talk) 20:21, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment There are three scientific books written by writer. Both publishers are notable (Springer and Wiley) and the number of chapter downloads in Springer books (links and reviews 85000 downloads of chapters of book 1 and reviews https://www.springer.com/in/book/9781461443421#reviews while book2 is here 30000+ chapter downloads https://www.springer.com/in/book/9781493917013#reviews ) show some notability. Two more notable mentions - ReadWriteWeb https://readwrite.com/2011/06/01/an-app-store-for-algorithms/ and KDNuggets https://www.kdnuggets.com/2017/11/day-life-data-scientist.html
 * Actually 4 poetry books but they have not been listed as notable https://www.amazon.in/Books-Ajay-Ohri/ Please consider the whole facts and retain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iwannacrib (talk • contribs) 05:06, 16 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:BEFORE and 'after' (i.e. this discussion) bring nothing to show independent notability even per WP:GNG. And promotional stuff abounds. -The Gnome (talk) 00:10, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - there are a few Google hits about his book on R (programming language), but nothing really about him. Fails WP:GNG
 * Weak Delete Only 1 reliable source in the article and none in the first two google pages, so might fail WP:GNG. &#91;Username Needed&#93; 12:14, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


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I would recommend someone who has data science knowledge to judge here with serious prior wiki editing credntials Iwannacrib (talk