Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akan (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 14:00, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Akan (musician)

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The subject of this article fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. None of the references cited in the article discuss him. I was able to find two reviews about his second studio album. The first review was published by Ghana Web, a platform that writes opinion pieces. The second review (a good read) was written by an amateur reviewer for a wordpress blog. I also found this source published by More Braches; unfortunately, it cannot be used to establish notability since it isn't independent of the subject. The subject has not gained in-depth coverage and does not deserve a separate article at this time.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 00:38, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.   Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 00:38, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 00:38, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ghana-related deletion discussions.   Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 00:38, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Don't Support Deletion - This article has about 6 or 7 independent sources speaking to it which is the English Wikipedia standard for article creation. Even with that I recognized the article still needed work so I made it a stub so it could be updated as we move forward. This article meets the required standard of Article creation and I believe I did that when I was writing it a year ago. I am completely at a loss where you point that none of the reference articles attached to this article speaks about him can you be kind to point that out. I believe the subject deserves a Wikipedia article because it meets the basic notability criteria and it was marked a Stub for that same purpose. Owula kpakpo (talk) 13:58, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * To reiterate, the sources in the article do not discuss the subject. I am going to dissect all 10 of them below.
 * The first source briefly mentions his song "Helebaba" and does not discuss him; the source cannot be used to establish the song's notability.
 * The second source is an announcement about his debut album Onipa Akoma. The album fails WP:NALBUM so the source cannot be used to establish notability.
 * The third source is simply an opinionated list compiled by Pulse Ghana; Akan is only mentioned in the source and is not discussed.
 * The fourth source is actually the kind of source that is needed to justify Onipa Akoma's notability. However, I don't think one solid review and background info is enough for the album to pass WP:NALBUM. It's a shame because the album is arguably one of the best Ghanaian albums released in 2017. If it won or was nominated for a VGMA award, then it should pass WP:NALBUM. I actually like the review I linked above; unfortunately, it can't be used.
 * The fifth source is just a promotional link about "Me Sika Duro"; the song is not discussed in the source.
 * The sixth source is a press release about the song "Ma Jaacki"; the song is not discussed in the source.
 * The seventh source is just the track list for Onipa Akoma; track listings do not establish an album's notability.
 * The eighth source is a press release about his cover of Skepta's "Konnichiwa"; the song is not discussed in the source.
 * The ninth source is a press release about the "Helebaba" video.
 * The tenth source, although not published as a review, can actually be considered a review of Akan's "Me Sika Aduro" video. If the song itself was notable, this review would complement it. Unfortunately, that's not the case.
 * The subject does not deserve a separate article at this time. He hasn't been discussed in reliable sources. My dissection of the article's sources is a testament to this fact.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 14:55, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi  Versace1608 , I am currently at a loss why you think the sources I have sited doesn't discuss the subject when they mention the subject in their reportage. Some of the sources are linked to the music which when you look carefully is linked to only his discography and to a specific music on the discography. Like I said above there are more sources I am finding about the subject which I have already added to the article. Also this article passes off as a stub so it meets the basic criteria for article creation if that has changed kindly point that out to me. And if you read the article and the sources attached you would notice the difference between each source I used and what it's backing in the article.Owula kpakpo (talk) 15:28, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Being mentioned in a source isn't the same as being discussed. All of the sources mentioned the subject's name but none of them discussed him. The additional sources you added to the article do not disuss Akan. The Quartz source only mentions his name once; a large portion of the article is about ELi and his environmental practices. The second source is a good review about the "Aprodoo" music video; the entire article is about the video and not about Akan. The source itself is a blog that doesn't appear to be notable (the blog only has two contributors). A separate Wikipedia article cannot be written about the blog because the blog fails WP:GNG and WP:WEB. An article being a stub is irrelevant to our discussion. Just because an article is a stub doesn't make it exempt from being judge against WP:N. FYI, in order for a subject to have a separate article, they will need to meet Wikipedia's notability requirements. Akan doesn't meet our notability requirements at this time. If he wins or gets nominated for a major award like the Vodafone Ghana Music Awards, he should have enough to pass the notability threshold.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 17:17, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi  Versace1608 , I disagree that to be a notable musician from Ghana you have to win a Vodafone Ghana Music Awards because not every musician gets nominated in that award scheme. It's like saying in other to be notable musician in the US you have to win or have been nominated for a Grammy Award, Billboard & BET Awards those are not what the notability criteria states. Akan is a musician and his video is being reviewed how that fails to be a review about his music beats my imagination. There are so many notable Ghanaian musicians who would not be nominated by any award scheme but would be notable I can give you examples. I have been contributing to articles around musicians in Ghana for a while and I am sorry a lot of nuanced would be lost on you if you are not from here.Owula kpakpo (talk) 17:44, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not saying he needs to win a VGMA in order to be notable. I said if he wins or gets nominated for a VGMA, he would pass criterion 8 of WP:MUSICBIO. As things currently stand, Akan doesn't meet any crtierion of WP:MUSICBIO.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 17:53, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, buidhe 09:35, 20 April 2020 (UTC) :Keep, notable artist who is well known across Africa. I feel like this article can be improved with more sources but there is definitely enough info on the internet to make it pass WP:musicbio Mr. Apollo (talk to me bebe) 14:39, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * How is he well-known across Africa? Can you provide a reliable source to support your statement? Which criterion of WP:MUSICBIO does he meet? You can't say he meets MUSICBIO without backing up your statement. I am awaiting your response.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 14:45, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Al Jazeera mentions him, online info, ghana motion releases, Live FM Ghana, Harmattan Rain, unorthodox reviews, musicarenagh. Mr. Apollo (talk to me bebe) 14:51, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You still didn't answer my question. How is he well-known across Africa? You need to back this statement up with reliable sources or remove it from this AFD discussion. Passing mentions by Al Jazeera is not enough to warrant a separate article. Music in Africa is not a reliable source; the website reads: "Music In Africa provides a platform for musicians and contributors to embed music and videos solely for promotional purposes". Ghanamotion is a blog that promotes artists through advertising; it is no where near being a reliable souurce. The Live FM Ghana source is simply a press release about the subject's album; it is not even a critical review of the album. Harmattan Rain is an unrelaible blog source that accepts content from artists. Unorthodox Reviews is a blog that lacks an editorial team. The last source is a promotional link; there's absolutely noting notable about it. You need to do some more digging because nothing you've presented here confer notability.    Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 15:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment: I struck out votes and comments made by Apollo825, a sock user.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 23:51, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete — like already said subject of our discussion doesn’t satisfy WP:MUSICBIO nor satisfy GNG. The influx of junk Africa related articles especially in Nigeria which has increased exponentially in this collaborative project is due to the fact that honest African editors who don’t engage in edit for pay are all going inactive & those who edit for pay & engage in sock puppetry & meat puppetry are on the rise, increasing exponentially day by day & are now dominating & it’s only a handful of honest African editors left to stand & fight the good fight of defending the integrity of the encyclopedia.Celestina007 (talk) 00:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)


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