Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akbar Khorramdin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 23:06, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Akbar Khorramdin

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Poorly sourced and only notable within the context of his son's murder (apparent WP:FAILN). Nearly all of the sources used in the article are concerned with his son, and this page has nothing to offer that cannot already be covered in his son's article. The creator's argument that he's notable like other serial killers is also void, because notability needs to be established case by case and it's non-existent for this individual. Also, the article is a poorly translated version of its Persian counter part, which is produced through the help of a translation machine. The sections on his biography and procedures (presumably court procedures) are totally unsourced (a serious violation of WP:VERIFY) and the lengthy quotes as well as some other parts raise serious WP:COPYVIO issues. The article should either be deleted to redirected to Babak Khorramdin (director). Keivan.f Talk 22:44, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:48, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:48, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:48, 23 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Akbar Khorramdin is a murderer who killed 3 people, so he has a good reputation, like Esmail Rangraz.It should be noted that the article is translated from Persian--Khadempour322 (talk) 22:51, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Several issues with your comment here. First, killing people doesn't grant individuals automatic notability. Temporary fame on social media is also not a good way of measuring notability, because the fuss will eventually die out and what matters the most is independent coverage of the subject which is non-existent in this case. Second, having an article on Persian Wikipedia is totally irrelevant to the overall argument here, and doesn't justify anything. Different versions of Wikipedia have different sets of policies. As the article's creator you should have addressed the issues and concerns raised here previously by other users. Keivan.f  Talk 22:56, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm unaware of the worries you're saying here Here only you have a problem with the article And I can give my opinion to and no one takes this right away from me.--Khadempour322 (talk) 23:01, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * And the other thing is that this person is a serial killer and he has confessed to killing three people in the same way.--Khadempour322 (talk) 23:04, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I cannot quite understand what you are trying to say here as I fail to see the connection between your last two comments, the latter of which is a restatement of your initial comment. I suggest you stop using translation machines for creating articles and communicating with other users if you have done so, so far. On the other hand, please don't taking matters personally. As a user, I have every right to challenge an article which is not worthy of inclusion in the encyclopedia if I do believe so. It's as simple as that. And the community will weight in with their opinions in due course. Not to mention that it wasn't even me who tagged the article for notability issues in the first place; an indication that other users could possibly have the same concerns. And of course you can offer your own arguments as much as you like, but you should also be ready for potential counter-arguments. Keivan.f  Talk 23:08, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It is interesting that you object to my writing and then answer my questions. It is very interesting؟؟؟--Khadempour322 (talk) 23:14, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't make an objection to anything. What I simply meant was that for the sake of better comprehensibility it'd better if you could write your comments in your own words if you haven't done so by now. And instead of making off-topic comments simply out of bitterness that an article created by you has been nominated for deletion, try to resolve the issues. Keivan.f  Talk 23:19, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not upset at all my friend.I hope the article is lasting so that I can fix its problems.--Khadempour322 (talk) 23:24, 23 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as per the problematic issues highlighted by nom. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:58, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - not every serial killer is notable, and the nom's rationale is spot on.  Onel 5969  TT me 04:01, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete As per nom fails GNG, can't see reliable coverage. Zackdasnicker (talk) 04:50, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: coverage is weak and reliable sources not found. Fails GNG. TheDreamBoat (talk) 05:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Mardetanha (talk) 06:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.