Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akilam One

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. JYolkowski // talk 21:34, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Akilam One
Marked for speedy as patent nonsense, but I can't tell whether it's meaningful or not. Google finds nothing. Unverifiable.

See also Votes for deletion/Birth of the Universe  &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 23:12, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete - I tagged it speedy after finding *nothing* remotely related. Still recommend speedy if possible. --FCYTravis 23:20, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Creator of this and the other page removed the vfd tags.  I reverted it back though.--Kross 23:37, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, and also delete Dhetchana Puthumai. Salleman 23:42, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. It appears this all has to do with Ayyavazhi, some obscure Indian religion. However, none of these articles give enough information for anyone not already familiar with the religion to be able to make heads or tails of them.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 02:59, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Should be a speedy delete for having little or no context. On par with "Hoobajoob is the thingamajig that ka-pows the wickywacky" because the contributor is describing it entirely by undescribed terms.  Postdlf 03:10, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as unverifiable/nonnotable based on my below comments. Postdlf 16:16, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, it provides perfectly good context by saying "it comprises the opening part of Akilattirattu Ammanai", if you haven't heard of the Akilattirattu Ammanai then go look that up. The speedy criterion is "short, no context", not "short, and I haven't heard of it". Kappa 04:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: I did look it up, and I couldn't find anything about it. Neither Google nor my home encyclopedia had anything for "Akilattirattu Ammanai". It did have "no context" because all of the terms used to describe it were similarly unfindable.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 16:10, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: this is related to VFD:Nizhal_Thangals. It's pretty obsure, and the author of the page has created numerous stubs with little to no content.  --Xcali 04:36, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete notability not established. JamesBurns 05:09, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. The anon who created these pages was blocked for 24 hours by RickK, due to his repeatedly removing the VFD tag from this page four times. I got really tired of reverting those edits too.--Kross 16:48, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment&mdash;I'm starting to piece together, by merging and redirecting, what some of this is all about; Akilattirattu Ammanai is the holy book of the Ayyavazhi religion, an apparent splinter cult of Hinduism of which Ayya Vaikundar was the prophet. The Akilattirattu Ammanai was divided into 17 parts, of which Akilam One is the first.  So an internally consistent context is there.  But here's the problem:  "Ayyavazhi" gets a bare 2 relevant google hits; separating it into "Ayya" + "vazhi" still gets only 8 unique hits.  Ayya Vaikundar gets only 5 google hits, only two of which are relevant (and one is a bare mention).  "Akilattirattu Ammanai" gets 0 google hits; "Akilattirattu" even by itself gets 0 google hits.  And finally, "Akilam One" gets 0 google hits outside of Wikipedia.  Do we have a translation/transliteration problem here?  Is this a simple failure of the internet to document a notable religious figure, text, and movement because of where it exists?  Or is this simply an unverifiable and nonnotable cult that may not even be described here by the right information, let alone titles?  I'm thinking the latter is true here.  Postdlf 04:16, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge into Akilattirattu Ammanai. Same applies for the subsequent number permutations of this.  Wikibofh 14:53, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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