Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akilan Pari


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Notable player in Indian subcontinent. (non-admin closure) Dial911 (talk) 20:57, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Akilan Pari

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Fails WP:NBASKETBALL. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:42, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:51, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
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 * Comment Is there a particular reason why you nominated this article, other than personal opinion? Akilan Pari is an internationally recognized athlete who has been featured in tons of newspapers and sports magazines. According to the guidelines you should first check whether an article can be improved rather than deleted. He clearly meets WP:SPORTCRIT. I thought this was very obvious. Stephreef (talk) 06:57, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong keep as discussed above. Stephreef (talk) 16:46, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep has played for Indian national team, thus meeting NBASKETBALL. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 15:15, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That does not meet WP:NBASKETBALL. WP:GNG must be demonstrated. Rikster2 (talk) 16:51, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:GNG is obviously demonstrated.Stephreef (talk) 06:44, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Not from where I sit. If there are tons and tons of articles covering him why don’t you add some more? Rikster2 (talk) 23:15, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * What is wrong with the articles about him that I already added? How many more articles do want me to add? Did you even look into the newspaper articles about him before making this statement? How about the article about him in the Indian Express? How about the article about him in Ekalavyas.com? Stephreef (talk) 07:09, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Ekalavyas.com The Ekalavyas.com source should be treated as promotional and not independent enough to demonstrate WP:GNG. From their website: "Ekalavyas is a media cum talent management enterprise in India. Starting with non-traditional sports, specifically Indian basketball, Ekalavyas will function in diverse verticals such as media, player representation and event management."—Bagumba (talk) 08:53, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Coca-colacompany.com This source with mention of Pari is also not independent, as it is promoting a game which that the soda company was sponsoring.—Bagumba (talk) 08:53, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not meet WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:NSPORTS, which does not presume notability for merely being a member of a national basketball team. Not enough significant coverage from multiple, independent sources to meet WP:GNG. I noted the non-independent sources above that are promotional, and not an objective indicator of notability. Otherwise, only the cited The New Indian Express has significant coverage.  Otherwise, I could only find trivial mentions online.—Bagumba (talk) 09:05, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment:He is not just a player but the captain of India's national team who has appeared at numerous international tournaments and who has been featured and quoted in newspapers. Expressnews was not even mentioned yet.Stephreef (talk) 14:17, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I don’t see where he meets WP:GNG. Rikster2 (talk) 15:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 23:28, 9 April 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 15:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. The sources currently in the article satisfy gng. There are around 70 English-language google sources, he's the point guard and captain of his country's team, frequently mentioned as one of the top handful of players in India.Jacona (talk) 20:45, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Is that by WP:BOMBARDing the reference list to WP:MASK the lack of notability? Your edit here adds these 3 sources with trivial mentions of him from WP:ROUTINE game coverage. See weak additions here—Bagumba (talk) 08:56, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * AS the team captain and key player for the national team of the world's second largest country, there shouldn't be any question of his meeting gng. If he played for a smallish European country, we wouldn't be bothering to look at this, but since it's in Asia, here we are.Jacona (talk) 12:23, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not the country per se, it's the coverage available in that country for a given sport. For example, there isn't much cricket or badminton coverage in the US. Per the guideline WP:WHYN: We require "significant coverage" in reliable sources so that we can actually write a whole article, rather than half a paragraph or a definition of that topic.—Bagumba (talk) 12:46, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * And it's also BIAS on language and interests. There's only a little coverage in English, but when it's not an English-speaking country and an American-centric sport, this nominator is ready to delete it even if it's eminently notable, as has been proven many times. Very little effort is given to considering even the English language, easily searchable sources, and zero effort beyond that.Jacona (talk) 17:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Ample sources in the article and on Google get him over GNG. Not to mention there are almost certainly foreign language ones. Smartyllama (talk) 20:16, 27 April 2018 (UTC)


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