Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akira (2021 film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. As noted, the NFF guideline cannot trump the GNG and TOOSOON is an essay not a guideline or policy. Thus the arguments in favour of keep grounded on GNG carry the day. If people feel that the current content is inadequate for a standalone article (a question that wasn't addressed in depth here) a merger discussion might be warranted though per WP:PAGEDECIDE. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:12, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Akira (2021 film)

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Primary rationale is per WP:NFF and WP:TOOSOON. The project isn’t due to begin filming for two months, it lacks any form of casting. Despite there being a fair deal of info on it it’s still potentially liable to cancellation. On another matter the article is a stitch job of copy and pasted content, which also includes information verbatim taken from a draft article I created on April 2.


 * Casting section from mainspace article creation, May 24


 * Edits I made to the draft article, April 2, , ,

Based on the basis of TOOSOON and NFF, I redirected the page, however the editor,, undid it. So I opted to request a history merge from, who initially merged the two but then undid that, citing WP:Parallel histories. I understand the rationale, but it’s frankly frustrating, and unfair, that the work I committed to fleshing the article out in draft so that the article would be ready to go upon the filming start date is open to deletion because the article was prematurely and improperly stitchjobbed into mainspace. I’d prefer it if the two were merged together and kept within draftspace so TOOSOON and NFF won’t be violated, but as it stands for the reason of those guidelines, and considering this project was previously canceled before, I nominate for deletion. Rusted AutoParts 05:11, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * There has also been previous deletion discussions regarding this: from 2008 and 2009. Rusted AutoParts  05:18, 25 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:55, 25 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep NFF is meant to prevent creating articles on films that just have been announced with little background. A live-action remake of Akira has been covered by sources for nearly 18 years at this point, and while it might fail NFF, it surely passes GNG. Yes, production may be delayed, it may get canned, etc. But works that fail to come to pass where there is this much detail on it are fair topics for WP per the GNG (eg in the video game realm we have Project Ragtag and Prey 2 as examples). I'm not opposed to improving the contents, but we also has two different articles (the manga and the anime) covering the same details. --M asem  (t) 05:35, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The fact that the film was previously cancelled prevents me from agreeing here. It just seems safer to err on the side of caution in this case, and I took some time to feel that way, given previous discussions in regards to the articles Man of Steel (discussion here) and The Lone Ranger (discussion here). As for whether it gets cancelled and has the info to sustain an article still, I don’t see id agree there. Looking at an article like Production of Watchmen for me demonstrates a standard of detail needed to warrant that (even if in the case of Watchmen it eventually got made). Rusted AutoParts  05:44, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 07:01, 25 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge into the Akira_(manga) article's section on related_media. If the film ever comes about it, it would then get its own article. Capt. Milokan (talk) 21:41, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge with its own new subsection in the Akira_(manga) article's section on related media. The movie has a set release date (2 years away) by Warner Bros and Leonardo DiCaprio is one of the producers via Hollywood Reporter. Per WP:TOOSOON, once it gets closer to production, then it can have an article. 5Q5 (talk) 13:34, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * For information, see User talk:Anthony Appleyard. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep A lot of reliable sources referenced in the article. Plenty of valid information to fill the article with.  And now they have a release date the film studio has mentioned with other information.  The coverage clearly passes the general notability guidelines.   D r e a m Focus  17:50, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I’ll again point to the fact that this particular project has been cancelled before. Rusted AutoParts  18:03, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see how that is relevant now since it is much farther along. Also that much attention means it passes the general notability guidelines, so that's all it needs to in order to survive as an article on Wikipedia.   D r e a m Focus  00:33, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Films can get pulled at the eleventh hour. The previous rendition of this film was stopped while it was casting and building sets. GNG I don’t feel covers this just yet. And as stated NFF very clearly states filming must be started before entering mainspace, regardless of coverage. The Marvel Cinematic Universe movies are some of the best covered in the industry today perhaps but they remain out of mainspace until Filming is confirmed to have started. Rusted AutoParts  00:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * No SNG can override the GNG, and there's little question, even if this film fails to happen, that the pre-production work all meets the GNG (doesn't mean it can't go back into the manga article as a merge). --M asem  (t) 01:07, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Like I said before I don’t believe it’s production history is that strong that it can stand on its own as an article should it get cancelled. My previous example of Production of Watchmen remains a good example. Rusted AutoParts  01:23, 31 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.