Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akira Hiramoto


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nominator has withdrawn nomination by opposing deletion. The original copyright issue has been fixed and no-one else has recommended deletion. (non-admin closure) Satellizer   (´ ･ ω ･ `)  23:08, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Akira Hiramoto

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Objectivity disclaimer: I am an active administrator of the Prison School unofficial wikia and an active editor at the Wikia domain, I have linked to my Wikia identity under the handle Speedit.

NB: I would not be initiating this deletion request if I didn't believe deletion was likely according to Wikipedia policy.

The artist is notable, however the page is a verbatim copy of another existing article of Wikia content. No acknowledgement was given of this in the edit summary and though I have tagged the article, I object to the use of this content on the site in its current form under WP:COPYPASTE.

As the page is not really rewritable to fix the problem, I propose that the page be deleted to be replaced by a stub of content from Prison School and Me and The Devil Blues. This would then be rewritable with translated text from the Japanese article. This would ensure that the article is of the quality and originality required for a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia articles are mainly based on secondary sources so there is an absolute limit to originality, but it is possible to write a new article that is more encyclopaedic and less biased in terms of the lifetime works of the author.

The article at the wiki is my work in content and while it is of a correct standard for inclusion for a wikia, it is not of such for Wikipedia. A few of the sources fail source attribution, the article violates WP:NPOV at the first sentence ("professional"), some technical terms and organization names are incorrect and it contains original research in the synopses.

The article also does not have the correct format as seen in Eiichiro Oda-sensei's page, this alone would condense it to approximately half its length. The birthdate could be is indeed wrong, I think the online Japanese sources '''do' state a year only.

Notably, there is no template on Wikipedia that allows the verbatim usage of a free article from another source, so that suggests there is a status quo against this already.

Speeditor  talk  20:30, 17 October 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 18:47, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Oppose: As the WP:COPYRIGHT and WP:COPYPASTE violation has been cleared up as explained here, I kindly object to its deletion. Speeditor   talk   —Preceding undated comment added 20:20, 25 October 2015 (UTC)  edited  Speeditor   talk  13:26, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Prison School, as there is absolutely nothing in the instant article other than the subject's authorship of that work. NewYorkActuary (talk) 20:48, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment This would be a possibility at this time without expansion, but the page could undergo expansion to avert this issue. Speeditor   talk  23:03, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have no strong opinion on whether the individual warrants an article or not, but on the copyright issue: we absolutely do allow the verbatim usage of free articles from other sources. See WP:FREECOPYING, CC-notice, etc. Now, I would tend to advocate against that practice for the other reasons raised by the nom, namely differing standards between us and those sources, but it's not a copyright violation and the edit-history doesn't need deleting - just attribution. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:30, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree with you in not advocating that practice for quality reasons, but I have directed users on the Wikia domain to avoid unattributing Wikipedia. From Wikipedia's response on this and CC being a copyright license, I think its possible to notch a violation. The inclusion of it in the edit history is justified though & I tagged it with Wikia before initiating this process. In general, Wikipedia is a huge target of people copying stuff from it - I appreciate that Wikipedia is unique in its proactive removal of copyright-infringing content.  Speeditor   talk  16:15, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  19:20, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. --Calathan (talk) 18:30, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment How many major works should an author have to be notable? Media Arts DB lists him for 32 volumes of ja:アゴなしゲンとオレ物語  and 15 volumes of Prison School. About four volumes each of 3 works and 1 volume each of 3 others. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:56, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep per SK#1 with this edit: To clarify, is the nominator now objecting to this being deleted? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:14, 3 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.