Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AkwaCross Jews


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The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 23:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

AkwaCross Jews

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This article makes some very wild and unsubstantiated claims and in the process violates WP:NEO, WP:RS, and WP:NOR as well as WP:NOTMYSPACE. Firstly, a Google search of the term AkwaCross Jews shows about 63 hits, all basically mirrors of this article. Secondly, the article relies on two self-promoting websites and an obscure author without citing actual statements in his works. Thirdly, the article is fuzzy and at times illogical and makes leaps of faith such as when it tries to give all the inhabitants of Akwa Ibom State (one of Nigeria’s 36 states with a population of over 8 million people) and Cross River State (population: 3,104,446) Jewish ancestry from the Ten Lost Tribes (this is a common problem with unproven pseudo-history) -- "Akwa [Ibom Sate]" and "Cross [River State]" presumably the source for the "AgweCross Jews" neologism moniker -- and then, fourthly, contradicts itself by saying that: "In particular, there are about 30,000 practinioners of Jewish religion (Judaism) in various Synagogue services (Shabbat Services)in Akwa Ibom State and Cross River State" (not verified) and other such claims it makes that are outrageous, such as that: "The AkwaCross people are not the only Nigerian group claiming Jewish heritage; there are other communities practicing Judaism in Nigeria, especially the Igbo  and the Yoruba." Note: There are 30 million Igbo people and there are over 30 million Yoruba people -- so does that mean that there are instantly more than 60 million "new Jews" just discovered here? Someone is trying to promote something here and it's not working. IZAK (talk) 01:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete for above reasons. IZAK (talk) 01:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions.   IZAK (talk) 01:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions.   IZAK (talk) 01:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Extraordinary claims require extraordinary sourcing. This has none. Jclemens (talk) 17:27, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and examine the sources to see what is supported. If there isa sentence or two not properly worded, it can be edited. eg, "particularly among the Igbo and Yoruba". That done, it's not so extraordinary. DGG (talk) 03:16, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi DGG: Have you read the article? It is totally iredeemable as it stands because it is not just a "sentence or two not properly worded" but entire paragraphs, the entire body of it in fact, is just hypothetical and non-factual, indeed it's unreal and fantastical material that is interwoven with a few vague strands about links to articles about Nigeria that have absolutely nothing to do with Jews or Judaism. There are so many of these kinds of putative groups today that claim descent from the ancient Israelites, that such types of claims cannot be taken seriously on the say-so of a person who jots some rough ideas down more from imagination than real sources, in violation of WP:MADEUP and even WP:HOAX, then wants to foist it as an "article" on Wikipedia. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 03:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - per WP:N, WP:NEO and WP:V --Superflewis (talk) 09:10, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Non notable per above. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 16:01, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


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