Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akyra Monet Murray


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting. There is a clear consensus here that we should not have a standalone article on this person. However a number of people advocating deletion have raised the possibility of content being merged from this article into the article about the shootings, and nobody has raised any real objection to this. Merging isn't possible if the article is deleted and the title is a plausible search term, so I am closing as Redirect to allow any merges at editorial discretion.  Hut 8.5  22:01, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Akyra Monet Murray

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I'm not sure what the long-term notability is for this person. It is tragic that she was the youngest victim of the deadliest shooting in U.S. history, but her long-term notability seems to be in doubt, as many other victims of the Orlando nightclub shooting have been similarly chronicled by newspapers. Even giving this a wide benefit of doubt, there only seem to be 138,000 results for Murray's name – which doesn't seem to be particularly indicative of notability. Kylo, Rey, &#38; Finn Consortium (talk) 19:39, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I understand your doubts at to the "long term notability" of this person; however, I fail to see the long-term notability of biographies for people like Rachel Scott, the first victim of the Columbine shooting. Of course, she has a myriad of books written about her, but these books were all written by relatives and the books themselves are not particularly notable books. This is not to say your point is moot but I assumed that since articles like that exist based solely on the fact that one held a superlative title in the shooting (first, youngest) then this would be a reasonable article.
 * It turns out that Scott may or may not be notable. A case can be argued either way. However, I prefer to merge this article to the Orlando shootings article for now, unless more detailed sources about Murray come out. Kylo, Rey, &#38; Finn Consortium (talk) 20:12, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I am perfectly alright with the deletion of the article, as long as parts of it can be merged into the article concerning the shooting itself. I now understand that details involving her personal life are not of the utmost importance due to her lack of any particular notability; however, I do think that parts of what I included in this article could be important regarding the article about the shooting. ~benmite (talk) 20:24, 22 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete I'm sorry to be Mr Nasty, but this seems to be a clear case of WP:BLP1E 'Subjects notable only for one event'. Unless her role is significant (beyond the obvious of having been killed tragically), this has to be a delete. Pincrete (talk) 20:37, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sad & tragic news but WP:BLP1E, WP:CRIME, & WP:NOTMEMORIAL apply. If we are to look at a similar issue, editors judged that Vicki Soto, one of the Sandy Hook teachers should have an article about her, written because of continuing notability re: Presidential Citizens Medal, schools/scholarships being named for her, social movements, in other words her continuing legacy.  The other victims - the teachers and children - do not have articles.  I don't know if it is possible to merge this with 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting or not - at a quick glance, doesn't seem like there is any place for it to fit within that article.  I do regret that someone obviously put a lot of work into creating this content and that it might possibly be deleted.  If the consensus is for deletion I would ask the closing administrator to consider possibly moving the content to draft space pending possible inclusion, if notability is established in the future.  I don't even know if that is possible.  So sad. Shearonink (talk) 22:17, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable, sorry. The fact that she's the youngest and her age can easy be added to the entry for the shooting. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 22:26, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:ONEEVENT. There are another 48 stories just like this one. We do not need an article on every victim. There is nothing in the article to indicate the subject was notable in life. Likewise, her death was no more notable than all the other victims. WWGB (talk) 03:41, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Sorry, but it's a textbook case of WP:BLP1E. Parsley Man (talk) 04:45, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete A non-notable victim of a large scale massacre is still not notable. It is not BLP1E since that is biography of living person, and Murray is dead, but still is not notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:48, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per Parsley Man and per nominator. Yoshiman6464 (talk) 06:32, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - per above. A part of the content should be merged in the main article. --Dcirovic (talk) 13:45, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Like others, WP:BLP1E is the issue. Merge info into relevant articles if necessary.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 16:25, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Rachel Scott managed to become a successful writer posthumously, as artists sometimes do, but athletes typically have much smaller windows, and sports are generally better appreciated in their own time. If her high school basketball videos start selling well, I'll reconsider, but that seems very unlikely. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:27, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:MEMORIAL and WP:BLP1E - people must be notable for more than one thing. -- Callinus (talk) 08:26, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a memorial, and being notable for one event.  A dog 104  Talk to me 02:07, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - As stated above, per WP:NOTMEMORIAL & WP:BLP1E. DrkBlueXG (talk) 17:19, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Clear case of WP:BLP1E. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk)  05:23, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Certainly a sad story, but the subject is a clear case of WP:BLP1E. Perhaps a mention in the Orlando nightclub shooting article that she was the youngest victim is warranted, but other than that there's nothing that really sets her apart from any other victim.  Omni Flames ( talk ) 10:10, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Agree this is clear case of WP:BLP1E. Tragic and sad, but needs to be notable. Merge. J Rockets☯ (talk)


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