Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Bukamal protests


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The result was   merge to Syrian uprising (2011–present). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:33, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Al-Bukamal protests

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Simply put the article is in violation of three Wiki guidelines. The main is Verifiability. The article has no sources to back-up the claims in it. Second. It does not fulfill the criteria for Notability. Except for one sentence The Al-Bukamal protests were part of the 2011–2012 Syrian uprising the article has nothing to say to the Wikipedia readers. Third, given no sources are provided for the article it could also be considered in violation of No original research. I think that says it all. Thank you! EkoGraf (talk) 18:47, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete We don't need articles for every Syrian protest, especially not when we can't say more than a sentence. --BDD (talk) 23:45, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete . I agree with BDD: If there is more than one sentence and also after reliable sources have been added, we could consider notability. Right now, notability has not been demonstrated.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:53, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I expanded it a little and added a reliable source. Al-Mujahid Fi Sabil Allah (talk) 14:03, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Now it is better, I have striken my vote.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The Notability of the article and its importance is still in question. For such a small incident, which was hardly reported in the mainstream media, isn't it better than to merge it into the article on the timeline of the Syrian uprising? Because, for this conflict, it has generally become a problem where editors have been creating articles on every small clash being reported. Several Syria conflict-related articles have already been deleted because of this. EkoGraf (talk) 18:46, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi EkoGraf. Thanks for your response. I think this article's notable because it was the first time before the FSA was formed that armed protesters took control of tanks and armored vehicles. If I'm wrong then please correct me. Al-Mujahid Fi Sabil Allah (talk) 03:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The provided source does not confirm this being the first time rebels captured armored vehicles, and we do not have any other sources on the event. Also, the FSA was still not formed at the time, they came into being two weeks after Bukamal. And actually I think the first instance of a real mass armed uprising was in Jisr al-Shughur the month before when 120 security forces/deserters were killed in the town. Thus notability is still in question given it was not reported on in the mainstream media except for that one day and limited at that. Like I said before, since there is at least one source now, would you be open to the idea of merging it to the Syrian uprising timeline article? And it seems that EllsworthSK backs-up this idea. EkoGraf (talk) 14:16, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry for not responding 😜Anyway, I think it should be merged. Al-Mujahid Fi Sabil Allah (talk) 00:53, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, so, if you are in favor of a merge, as well as EllsworthSK, I, as the editor who nominated it for deletion, would change my opinion to merge. Since we have at least one source now. EkoGraf (talk) 23:10, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge with main article or Deir ez-Zor during the 2011–2012 Syrian uprising article for the lack of notability. There were A LOT of protests in Syria during last year, in a lot of them military personell defected and riot ensured, creating separate article about each of them would lead to numerous content forks. No need for that. EllsworthSK (talk) 19:27, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:24, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to the main article. There isn't sufficient sources to justify a separate article on its own, but its worth a mention on the 2011–2012 Syrian uprising. - Mailer Diablo 11:53, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
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