Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Salam Stadium


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The result was no consensus. Recommend WP:RM for further exploration of this issue; that venue will attract more people who are knowledgeable/interested in naming conventions, disambiguation, and the like. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:27, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Al-Salam Stadium

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There are only two stadiums known as "Al Salam Stadium". One located in Egypt and the other in Israel. However only the stadium in Egypt is known with that name; the other one in Israel is known as HaShalom Stadium and rarely refereed to as Al Salam Stadium. With that being said, I don't think a dab article is needed. I think that it should be deleted and the stadium in Egypt should be moved to Al Salam Stadium with a WP:HAT added on top of the article to avoid confusion with the other stadium in Israel. Redirecting it to the stadium in Egypt is also another option. Ben5218 (talk) 21:57, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
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 * Reverse Merge Al-Salam Stadium (Cairo) to this article + place hat note directing to Israeli stadium. Delete - but disagree with nominator. The Umm al-Fahm is actually known quite widely as "Al Salam Stadium" - this is an almost 100% Arab town, the language spoken is Arabic, and there is quite a bit of Arabic driven coverage (and translation thereof - which renders into Al-Salam (or Peace if they ttranslate)). However, that being said - the Cairo stadium outpaces the Israeli one by one or two orders of magnitude. The Israeli stadium houses Hapoel Umm al-Fahm F.C. and Maccabi Umm al-Fahm F.C. which are far from top-tier clubs to say the least - particularly when compared to Al Ahly SC. The Israeli stadium also has a widely used alternative name (derived from the same word in Hebrew). Thus - deleting the DAB and having a hat note directing to the Israeli one is a good solution here - the Egyptian usage is by far the most common. Icewhiz (talk) 12:47, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Modified !vote to reverse merge per Shhhnotsoloud which seems more correct procedure wise (standing pat on rationale). Icewhiz (talk) 13:55, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep on procedural grounds - this needs to go to WP:RM. GiantSnowman 10:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * "Merge" is a legitimate outcome: see my comment immediately below. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge by moving Al-Salam Stadium (Cairo) over the disambiguation page at the base name and placing a hatnote there to the only other use. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Please note that the stadium in Cairo is known as Al Salam Stadium without a dash. If the outcome of this discussion is merging the article about stadium in Cairo with the dab page, then we should also rename it to exclude the dash. Ben5218 (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Al-Salam, Al Salam, As-Salam, As-Salaam and other variations are all possible transliterations too - perhaps a number of redirects would be helpful. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Don't think that more redirects are needed for this one. Maybe having Al-Salam as the only redirect is enough. Ben5218 (talk) 19:33, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:03, 10 March 2019 (UTC)


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