Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Taaf Sahib


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 17:50, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Al-Taaf Sahib

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:56, 10 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:59, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football,  and Oceania. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:56, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete not enough sourcing to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:41, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - I found these sources which show he is notable in Fiji: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10. In addition to these sources, he also is mentioned in countless match reports. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 07:10, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:25, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. Of the sources above, four are primary sources from the Fiji Football Association or the Oceania Football Confederation. The rest are fairly trivial mentions, minor stories and match reports . The only one that might possibly be significant is this from the Fiji Times that is locked behind a paywall. Even if it was significant, GNG requires multiple sources of significant coverage. Alvaldi (talk) 18:54, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - sufficient sourcing to meet GNG. I don't think the OFC is a 'primary source' here. GiantSnowman 19:29, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SPORTBASIC. Proponents of keepy uppy should be producing sources of substance and not mentions in the Oceania Football Confederation website or the Fiji Football Association one that contain exhaustive listings of its member players. These are not indicative of notability. Neither are the Facebook pages of them; or news items (here, here, etc) about the Fiji squad, but not about Sahib specifically; or news about futsal such as this and this; and so on. The attempt to inundate the text with links might be seen by some as commendable but WP:GNG is simply no met. -The Gnome (talk) 15:26, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Sufficient sourcing for GNG. Additional sources from above should be added. More strong attempts should be made to find additional sources before proposing deletion. El Dubs (talk) 21:11, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:56, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: It would facilitate the discussion, as well as the closing decision, if contributors were to offer concrete, source-based arguments and criticism instead of just posting up claims, e.g. "sufficient sourcing". -The Gnome (talk) 18:12, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete The sourcing in the article is insufficient and the sources presented above are also insufficient to pass WP:GNG - passing mentions, team lists - but no article whatsoever about the player himself - WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:19, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - Passes GNG. Simione001 (talk) 03:48, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Care to provide some basis for that verdict? -The Gnome (talk) 11:09, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. Alvaldi's and The Gnome's analyses are spot-on. And obviously the OFC is not independent of its membership so can't be used for notability, but even if it was, neither of those pieces would contribute to GNG as the first is like 95% quotes and the second is a press release. These types of non-independent and passing-mention sources are regularly rejected at AfD, why do editors keep bringing them up and wasting people's time?? JoelleJay (talk) 06:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Sources do not establish that WP:NBIO is met. MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:16, 5 August 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.