Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Taraf Club


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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  17:12, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Al-Taraf Club

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As per Wikiproject football, one criteria of notability is being in a fully professional league. 3rd Division of Saudi Arabia is not one. Other than that this club doesnt seem to have enough coverage for GNG. Daiyusha (talk) 09:33, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Daiyusha (talk) 09:33, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Saudi Arabia-related deletion discussions. Daiyusha (talk) 09:33, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * The article belongs to a Saudi club that plays in the Saudi Third Division league, with sources attached to it, and there is the player Saad Al Thyab who previously played for the club in juniors. Noornasser2019 (talk) 09:37, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * There is another criteria WP:GNG, if the club has enough media coverage, or has done something major(say winning a cup) it can have an article. Just existing in a non-fully professional league is not enough criteria. Also having had a fully professional player during his childhood, is also not enough. This is a gray area, but if the player himself is popular enough, it could be considered. Daiyusha (talk) 09:44, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment fully professional leagues represents our notability standard for players, not teams, so this is a mistaken nomination. I can't !vote since I don't understand Arabic which makes sources very difficult to search for, but searching the name they use on Twitter brought up a good amount of hits, so someone will need to do a WP:GNG search for this team to see if it's actually notable. It definitely passes WP:V. SportingFlyer  T · C  09:47, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 15:52, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Professionality has no relevance for clubs - it's for players. For clubs, we have WP:FOOTYN which notes that notability generally exists for teams that play at the national cup level. And this team did this, participating in the 2015-2016 Saudi King Cup of Champions. Nfitz (talk) 23:10, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Nfitz, Based on the link you shared, and the article about the Kings cup 2015 King Cup, I believe this club hasn't entered the main competition, only the 32 teams of the knockout stage are considered as participants as per the article, and this club played in the qualifiers for the cup. Daiyusha (talk) 07:42, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * No, didn't seem to make the final 32, and participated in the preliminary stage. But it's still a national cup competition. And they are listed as having participated once here. Wikipedia itself isn't a source - that article only seems to list the final stages of the cup. Nfitz (talk) 07:58, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  NNADI GOOD LUCK  ( Talk &#124; Contribs ) 16:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


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