Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AlDub Episodes


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  13:10, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

AlDub Episodes

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This article doesn't stand a chance because it will never meet WP:V and it basically duplicates content found at List of Kalyeserye episodes which is already an extraordinarily problematic article. I'd probably recommend a speedy-delete under A10 (Recently created article that duplicates an existing topic) except that AlDub Episodes was created on Nov 5 2015, so "recently created" isn't met, and some admins take that kinda stuff literally.

For some background, one of the longest-running television series in the Philippines is a daily variety program called Eat Bulaga!. Within this series, they have a live segment called Kalyeserye, which from what I can tell, is a tongue-in-cheek, serialized fictional comedy soap opera involving a "love team" Alden (male) and Yaya Dub (female), who are constantly manipulated by some meddling grandmothers (guys in drag) some of whom are are trying to get the two together in romance, and some of whom are trying to split them up. While there is a general shape to each "episode", most of the dialogue seems to be improvised, and some characters, like Yaya Dub I believe, don't speak at all, they just lip sync to other people's dubbed voices. That's probably more than you need to know, and I'm confused just writing it.

The big problem, is that since this is a live daily segment within another live daily program, there's no reasonable way to verify what happened in the "plot". I doubt there will be reruns, and it would be silly to release these on DVD, because they're not actual structured episodes like you'd expect in a regular TV show. It would be like trying to catalog the daily banter between Hoda Kotb and Kathie Lee Gifford on The Today Show. There's simply no real way to verify any of it, because no public library is going to have the entire Today Show history in their archives. So WP:V is not likely to ever be met here. Further, while the article creator did make a good effort, there are only 9 "episodes" in this article, while over 135 have been logged at List of Kalyeserye episodes. That's an uphill battle that will never be won. And for an example of how problematic that article is, you needn't look further than this "episode" summary:
 * "Alden tried to cheer Yaya Dub who was not in a good mood after all of her social media accounts got hacked. In doing so, he tried to sing for her, and he imitated Lola Nidora using Dubsmash."

What? Totally pointless venture and I may consider nomming List of Kalyeserye episodes for deletion for the same reasons. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:28, 22 December 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:35, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. North America1000 01:55, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. North America1000 01:55, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to either List of Kalyeserye episodes (assuming it isn't deleted later on) or to either Kalyeserye or Eat Bulaga! (if the list article is deleted) as a possible search term. This is A10 worthy, but let's assume good faith and the editor did make an effort. The problem is that neither article is in good shape right now and would need to be fundamentally rewritten. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:50, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:59, 5 January 2016 (UTC) Delete - lacks any references, appears to be WP:SELFPUBLISH. Karst (talk) 10:38, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - clearly does not pass any of the WP:GNG criteria. Karst's point is also well-taken.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:14, 13 January 2016 (UTC)


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