Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alain Bernheim


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The result was keep. John254 00:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Alain Bernheim

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COI text written by subject, all claims of notability unverifiable. I would expect to find more than a passing entry for a concert pianist with an over twenty-year career, but I can't even find that. I have looked for sources on this person and have only found one source for his biography, here, which is on an article the subject wrote, where it also states he is "current editor of the Pietre-Stones Review of Freemasonry". This article was created by User:Pietre-stones. MSJapan (talk) 14:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmmm... looking into this, things seem quite muddled... according to the Pietre-Stones Review website Bernheim is not the current editor of that site. That position seems to to be held (and always was held) by the site's founder, a Bruno Gazzo.  This leads me to suspect that at least some of the claims about Bernheim's notability may be bogus, or at least based upon bogus information.  We definitely need verification of these claims.  On the COI issue... I note that Bruno Gazzo goes by the user name "Pietre-Stones" on his website's forum, which lead me to suspect that Gazzo might be the author of the Bernheim article here on Wikipedia.  Granted, the fact that someone uses a user name on one site does not mean he is the person who uses it on another site, but it is enough to cast doubt.  If my supposition is correct, there may not be a COI issue here after all.  Push comes to shove, I have to go with DELETE - unless verification of the claims to notability can be provided. Blueboar (talk) 15:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I added two references which are consistent with the claims of having been a concert pianist, and once which mentions one of his books. I suspect the awards are enough to prove notability. --Eastmain (talk) 15:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment... I would agree, if we can get verification that he actually won these awards. Blueboar (talk) 15:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 19:55, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment on Note... not sure if this is the right sorting category... the awards that might make the subject notable seem to be related to his being an author, not a musician. -- Blueboar (talk) 13:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  15:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep between the published works and the awards, notability appears to be already established. Could use some expansion.  Shell    babelfish 15:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep seems to be enough documentation for his musical career at least. DGG (talk) 19:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


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