Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alan Fisher (architect)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedily kept  under criterion #1 (nominator withdrew, no dissenting opinions). Non-admin action. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 22:03, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Alan Fisher (architect)

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Could not find any proof of notability. Being married to a notable person is not enough. --Elekhh (talk) 09:36, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 10:17, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've inserted proof of notability into the article. We could make the article bigger and more extensive, but the source establishes it without doubt.   Q.E.D., Res ipsa loquitor.  That is all.   7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 13:28, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:03, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak keep There are several hits on Alan B. Fisher. He's credited in reliable sources with at least one specific notable building here (the Ship Tavern) and here (renovation of the Central City Opera House, which is on the National Register of Historic Places). He also appears several times in Denver, the City Beautiful and its Architects, 1893–1941, but all the snippet view will let me see is gossip. I must admit the preponderance of sources I see discuss him in the context of the Fisher & Fisher company, like the one added by 7&amp;6=thirteen. It startles me that he has an article but his father William Ellsworth Fisher apparently doesn't; this seems to be the usual balance in discussion of the firm. However, being less famous than one's father is not an automatic disqualification, and there seems to be adequate coverage of him, although someone who knows Denver and/or has access to books on its architecture such as that last one is going to have a much better chance of adding suitable references than I do.Yngvadottir (talk) 17:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Of course it is not surprising that I would say this since what is there was all put in by me.  Well, at least until User 7+6 = 13 showed up and beefed out my stub quite a bit. (Thanks.  I count that as a KEEP too)   Fisher's best known building is probably the Denver Public Library and that is largely because of the addition by Michael Graves.  As far as his father and uncle are concerned (see above comment) I am researching them as well.  My master plan for articles on all the Fishers involves following a social network to Alan Fisher's daughter, where I am hoping to get access to family archival material, perhaps learn more about William's suicide, etc.  Now I can hear the original research posse not so quietly going berserk, but I believe that a look at my work here will reveal a long term editor with a pretty good track record in doing responsible editing and that if the deletionists can hang on for a while wikipedia will be amply rewarded with a couple of good articles.  Alan Fisher was/is probably more famous that his wife, you just know about her because I wrote a wikipedia article about her.  I found a wonderful article about Fisher and his wife's interactions with D. H. Lawrence that will make a great source - and so it goes.  I beg you not to do anything rash.   Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 03:20, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Thanks for the article improvements, now it looks much better, and is demonstrated that the Fischers are notable. Maybe would be worth contemplating having an article about the family firm with the individual names redirecting there. --Elekhh (talk) 03:42, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep  I concur with the plan of Carptrash.  I do think that some of the content and sources that have come up in this discussion could be profitably used in the article.   7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 18:09, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I think there are enough sources for this as a separate article from Fisher & Fisher article, created recently, which had not mentioned Alan, now links to this article. -- do ncr  am  02:02, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice link. I believe that Fisher & Fisher were his father and uncle. But we will know more as the story unfolds.  In its own good time. Carptrash (talk) 02:33, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
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