Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alan King (Australian filmmaker / actor)


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  21:00, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Alan King (Australian filmmaker / actor)

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:NACTOR and WP:V. Virtually all the inline references are to primary or self-published sources (ie. IMDb) and I couldn't find any coverage on the subject in reliable independent sources. The few independent references included in the article either don't mention the subject or are only incidental mentions. Kb.au (talk) 00:19, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Kb.au (talk) 00:21, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Kb.au (talk) 00:21, 18 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete lots and lots of references to non-reliable sources still do not add up to reliable sourcing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:02, 18 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - Deletion requests are incorrect, page does not fail Wikipedia Notability, Wikipedia Notability (people) and Wikipedia: Verifiability

Kb.au please keep Wikipedia jargon to a minimum with first time users such as myself. Terms such as WP:GNG, WP:NACTOR and WP:V are Wikipedia Jargon and is aggressive, intimidating and unnecessary. As a first time user I was initially completely confused by these abbreviations provided by Kb.au. I'm sure this is the reason Wikipedia have the "no jargon" rule included in their code of conduct in relation to correspondence with experienced users such as Kb.au and first time users like myself.

As a first time user, I also feel a recommendation other than deletion request would have been much more appropriate in this instance (please see supportive information to this below). I have done my upmost to abide by and follow the Wikipedia guidlines, including quoting multiple reliable and independent sources in relation to the page. As a new member of the Wikipedia community, I feel I have been very respectful and attentive to the necessary processes and methods of contributing to Wikipedia.

In regards to notability, the body of work and awards for Alan_King_(Australian_filmmaker_/_actor) is considerably extensive on both a National and International level spanning across Theatre, Television, Narration and Filmmaking.

Issues raised on this thread surrounding verifiability are also not correct.

Wikipedia states " IMDb may not be a reliable source for biographical information." This page does not primarily use IMDb for biographical information it uses IMDb primarily for Film and Television credits. IMDb is the considered the leading International industry database for Film and Television credits. IMDb have thorough and rigorous systems in place to ensure all Television and Film credits are correct.

The article Alan_King_(Australian_filmmaker_/_actor) does not contain any references to non reliable and self published sources. Reliable independent sources are listed extensively throughout the page including well known and reputable Film and Audio publications, Academy Award qualifying Film Festivals and Non-local mainstream Newspapers:

The information provided in relation to the page in many of these sources is extensive and not incidental mentions.

Reliable and independent sources listed and linked (as per Wikipedia stipulations and guidelines for providing source material)throughout the page Alan_King_(Australian_filmmaker_/_actor) include - Cinequest International Film Festival, Inside Film Magazine, Flickerfest International Film Festival, FilmInk Magazine, Herald Sun Newspaper, Moscow International Film Festival],Stage Whispers Magazine, Film Festivals.com, UK Film Review, Micro Filmmaker Magazine, The Newport Beach Film Festival, Femail.com, Audible.com, Sao Paulo International Film Festival and the Audio Publishers Association Of America. Jas ravalouskis (talk) 05:38, 22 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete, perhaps even speedy G11. Even IF notable give it TNT. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:18, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as written, although I would be fine with a move to draft to give a bit more time for real sources to be resolved into the article. bd2412  T 18:50, 25 January 2018 (UTC)


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