Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alan Morrison (organist)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Or no consensus, but there have been no "delete"s since relevant sources were found.  Sandstein  13:08, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Alan Morrison (organist)

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No sources listed in the article, and I cannot find any notable independent sources that would indicate WP:GNG. There are lots of listings pages, press releases and biographies, but nothing independent. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 22:46, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:49, 28 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete – I struggled to find sources that establish him enough to pass GNG or WP:MUSICIAN. Missvain (talk) 00:34, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete article lacks any indepdent sources, let alone ones that are reliable secondary sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:32, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, No coverage to satisfy WP:GNG . Alex-h (talk) 15:30, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. I found a couple of possible sources: 1 and 2, but not a huge amount of coverage by way of reviews. Pinging and  to see if they have more information, just in case. Bearian (talk) 16:43, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for finding these Bearian - as they are both simply concert listings, wouldn’t these come under WP:ROUTINE? Asking not to be awkward but because I want to build my own knowledge on policy, I see you on a lot of these AfD discussions and respect your opinion! Cardiffbear88 (talk) 19:47, 31 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. Head of the organ department at a famous music school (Curtis), but that's not necessarily defiitive. . Whar we need to do what we would normally do, which is look for reviews of his works. His website lists 2, without specifics of just when they were published (1) "CLEVELAND   "ORGANIST PRODUCES A JOYFUL PERFORMANCE" - "....a rising young virtuoso of flawless technique and refined taste.... Playing most of his repertoire from memory, he communicated a sense of pleasure that lifted the music beyond the notes."  The Plain Dealer" and (2) "  "....Alan Morrison knows something about igniting audience passions. Without hesitation and throughout, Morrison's playing is consummate and dazzling...." - Fanfare from Fanfare (magazine).  DGG ( talk ) 16:53, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * refs at - but the orginal source needs to be added also.  DGG ( talk ) 02:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks DGG - do you have access to these quotes and can include them as independent secondary sources? Currently the article has no independent sources at all which we need to find if the page should stay. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 19:47, 31 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak keep - changed !vote and hat tip to . Bearian (talk) 16:39, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as reliable sources reviews have been identified and now need to be tracked to source and added to the article, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:13, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks DGG, Bearian, Atlantic306 - but at the moment I cannot find these original sources, only the publicity quotes taken and placed onto a primary source. Can we really accept notability based simply on these primary sources? Thanks for your help on this. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 21:50, 3 February 2020 (UTC)


 * There are multiple oher reviews available also: they are listed, with some of them linked, and some links working, at ; I found this page by searching in Google for Alan Morrison organ, which is not a particularly subtle or complicated method, though it seems to have not been used by the nominator.  Among the actual working links are, ,  I have not done a search in newspaper archives requiring paid access.  For Fanfare, see  Actual access to the reviews requires a subscription.  DGG ( talk ) 22:40, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks DGG, Link 2 is new to me and is really helpful. Your sarcasm, however, isn’t helpful. Please WP:GOODFAITH in future. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 23:19, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I shouldn't have directed it at you specifically, because incomplete prior searches are a common problem. Some of this might be because the full searches asked for by WP:BEFORE are impractically detailed. And I too sometimesassume that i sarch I did is sufficient and it turns out otherwise.  DGG ( talk ) 00:16, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:55, 4 February 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Due to the fairly easy balance. It may be helpful if the early delete !voters could confirm if they believe the new sources remain insufficient

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 22:11, 11 February 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.