Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albanian Wikipedia (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   No Consensus to delete. Outright deletion garners little support in view of the plausible redirect target, but much of the support for keeping the article is based on the judgement that all Wikipedias should be kept by default regardless of the notability guidelines, a principle which reflects neither common practice nor results in similar AfD's. Eluchil404 (talk) 08:13, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Albanian Wikipedia
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Non-notable website, per WP:NOTABLE, composed of first-hand sources for four years. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:31, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep I think this is an exception to WP:N (which is a guideline, not policy) as a WMF project. → Σ  τ  c . 06:04, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Applying favouritism to websites that are WMF projects is a bad use of IAR in my opinion. Wikipedia should maintain editorial independence from the WMF, and such project should be expected to meet the same standards for notability that we apply to other websites. No opinion on the specifics on whether this should be kept or deleted. 137.43.188.224 (talk) 12:29, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions.  — Frankie (talk) 20:52, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions.  — Frankie (talk) 20:52, 27 April 2012 (UTC)


 * All the links from this article to external press coverage (in Albanian) seem to be effectively dead. If they can be repaired or replaced during this AfD, then keep. Otherwise, redirect to List of Wikipedias as per usual consensus in such cases. PWilkinson (talk) 22:03, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:13, 3 May 2012 (UTC)




 * The subject of this AfD was kept in this discussion. → Σ  τ  c . 08:40, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect, per PWilkinson. -- WhiteWriterspeaks 13:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Neutral  I have been able to repair two of the links (as per PWikonson's request above) via the Internet Archive. The second of the two I restored, well, it's not clear to me that it's referring to the Albanian Wikipedia in specific, rather than Wikipedia as a whole.  (The first clearly is.)  --joe deckertalk to me 16:44, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment but tending towards keep. That Google search for "Albanian Wikipedia" but excluding the word "Wikipedia" is fatally flawed because obviously if you exclude a word in the phrase you're searching for you won't get any results. Using a more useful search, I've immediately found at least one additional newspaper article from an Albanian daily, covering the 10-year anniversary of Wikipedia but also reporting on the Albanian edition in particular. --Terfili (talk) 07:30, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   05:08, 11 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep; notability should take priority over source type when a topic is notable. This represents the proliferation of languages of Wikipedia articles as Albanian is such an obscure language. Robert (talk) 14:21, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep; All wikipedias are notable. Mbak Dede (talk) 09:36, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.