Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albanian exonyms


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The comment by Ret.Prof was not taken into account in closing this discussion, because notability is not among the problems being discussed here.  Sandstein  11:35, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Albanian exonyms

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This seems suitable for an Albanian dictionary not an English encyclopedia. (WP:DICDEF). And there are no references. (WP:V, WP:N). Colonel Warden (talk) 05:48, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep--at least, pending a broader discussion. This list is part of a large category of similar lists, essentially a series of subarticles stemming from the topic of Exonym and endonym, that were discussed collectively in late 2007 at Articles for deletion/List of European exonyms. Cogent arguments were made on both sides in that discussion, and the AfD was closed as "no consensus, leaning towards keep".  It may be that standards have changed since then, and possibly a transwiki to Wiktionary (suggested but not implemented in 2007) would now be deemed more appropriate.   In any event, deleting this article would damage the overall completeness and coherency of Wikipedia's coverage of exonyms.  Accordingly, this list should be kept unless and until a consensus is reached that the entire group of similar lists no longer belongs on Wikipedia.  I'd suggest that discussion might be conducted first in an appropriate policy-based forum such as Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics.--Arxiloxos (talk) 18:16, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for some history of this matter. But in what sense is that project policy-based?  I'm getting a different impression. Colonel Warden (talk) 18:30, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions.  —Arxiloxos (talk) 18:16, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions.  —Arxiloxos (talk) 18:16, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I have also posted a mention of this AfD at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics and Talk:Exonym and endonym.--Arxiloxos (talk) 18:16, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak delete without prejudice against recreation as a legitimate article about exonyms in the Albanian language. That's a very special topic, hard to research even if notable, and unlikely to get an article in the next few years. This is not an article but a mere list. It's hard to tell why precisely it doesn't belong here, because this type of list is simply too rare to have received specific wording in any guidelines. But this is simply not how we present this kind of information. Albanian exonyms are readily available simply by following the Albanian interwiki links. Hans Adler 19:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTDIR. Lists about how different cities and countries are spelled in every language don't belong in wikipedia.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 20:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep see Arxiloxos comment, it is piece of wider category, if deleted whole category needs. --Vinie007 10:18, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to wiktionary even if this is not deleted, it should exist on Wiktionary. `76.66.203.138 (talk) 05:31, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep: Notable. Ret.Prof (talk) 21:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. That each language has its own words for places (as for anything else), which are necessarily adapted to its own phonology, is obvious and trivial.  I can't see how a list of Albanian (or any other language) words for places does any better against WP:DICT than a list of words for engine parts or spices.  But it seems we mustn't delete any one of this horde of useless lists until there's a consensus for deleting all of them — and any proposal to do that will draw objections that it's too sweeping.  WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS; is there anything in the policy pages about Morton's Fork? —Tamfang (talk) 04:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.