Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albany Devils


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep - Nominator withdrew nomination  Pparazorback (talk) 03:59, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Albany Devils

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Speculatory. No references officially confirming that the Lowell Devils are indeed moving. There's references implying that they'll move, but nothing concrete. Furthermore: the name "Albany Devils" is pure assumption. ccwaters (talk) 19:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions.  —DJSasso (talk) 19:59, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 *  Redirect Keep to Lowell Devils for now and the redirect can be undone if it is officially announced. I say redirect rather than delete as its been deleted twice. (once by me) But keeps getting created so its clearly something that is getting searched so might as well make it a useful redirect rather than just outright delete. However it might be getting recreated by the same person over and over. -DJSasso (talk) 19:56, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete, G3 The author,, is an obvious sock of . The latter account went on a massive three-day spree of hoaxing and pagemove vandalism after being inactive since December 2009.  Looking at MrBradJones044, this user is exhibiting the same behavior.  I'm opening an SPI case to find any other accounts this guy may have. Blueboy96 20:33, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep as move is official. Blueboy96 21:23, 11 June 2010 (UTC)


 *   doing a quick search there seems to be a number of articles, however I havent seen anything offical from the Lowell Devils or New Jersey Devils. If real- wouldn't an Albany Devils article be the Lowell Devils with a move to change the name to Albany Devils, since the franchise and ownership are the same, for that reason I support a merge/redirect per -DJSasso's comment above.Bhockey10 (talk) 21:12, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No, definitely two different articles because of the move(See Philadelphia Phantoms/Adirondack Phantoms for a recent example). Your reference states that a move is "possible" just like every other article. Even Lou's letter to Lowell fans just states that hockey in Lowell is financially unfeasible, the destination is just implied by Albany area reporters. Yeah, everything points to it probably happening, but Wikipedia isn't here to record the maybes. Just wait, there will be indisputable articles to reference in the Times Union/etc if they pull the trigger. And again the "Albany Devils" name itself is pure speculation. ccwaters (talk) 23:50, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * "but Wikipedia isn't here to record the maybes." That's a good point, it goes back to Crystal. One note about the Phantoms there was an ownership change, but I'm sure that'll be a debate for later. Bhockey10 (talk) 00:51, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * When teams move towns we always create a new article, its a standard used in the hockey project. We only move the page if its a simple name change but the team stayed put. -DJSasso (talk) 11:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * (Which is why there shouldn't be separate Lowell Devils and Lowell Lock Monsters articles, as the team didn't move then, but I digress). As for this, redirect unless/until an official announcement is made. oknazevad (talk) 16:04, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep. Officially announced by the AHL today.  Tom Danson (talk) 16:25, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I, the original nominator, withdraw the AFD.ccwaters (talk) 17:25, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, as the move is now official.Kjscotte34 (talk) 17:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
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