Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albany Mega Centre


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. I wanted to close this as a no consensus but the article is a straight copyright violation of the promoter's website. No prejudice against recreation although it should probably be sent back swiftly to AfD. Pascal.Tesson 04:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Albany Mega Centre

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As with all the other malls up for AFD today, this fails WP:CORP and WP:N. Jauerback 14:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Delete no claim to notability--Victor falk 15:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm going to quote a comment from another AfD, while I don't entirely agree with every detail it contains important truths: "All malls should have articles here because they are the local landmarks of our times, often replacing Main Street or town squares. They have as much influence on towns as highways, schools, or stadiums. They are substantial economic enterprises and raise major issues involving land use, taxation, and globalization. Too many people love to talk, read or write about them for us to play silly games and try to exclude them. This may be hard for people to believe, but in the real world, they are far more important than the latest Virtual community, Pokemon card, or webcomic." Mathmo Talk 21:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletions.   -- Mathmo Talk 21:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep per Mathmo.- gadfium 05:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per Mathmo and gadfium. Asserts notability by use of the word "iconic". Badly needs reliable sources.Bearian 17:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Malls are not inherently notable. Needs refs to show it is large or otherwise important beyond its neighborhood. Edison 19:59, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article makes no attempt to assert notability.  If it is of local interest, then merge the information into the local city article.  Vegaswikian 01:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep This Mega centre is going to be part of the biggest city centre project in the history of auckland, besides the CBD.. Which is definitely notable to anyone who actually lives in auckland, not england. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.109.188.7 (talk • contribs) 02:35, 7 August 2007
 * Delete at this late stage of the AfD I would expect some references to have appeared. If the topic was notable, then at least a primary source would be cited at some stage during and AfD.Garrie 22:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment by the above, I mean - nobody has identified how Albany Mega Centre meets either WP:N or WP:CORP. Garrie 22:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment Mathmo does not cite a valid reason to keep the article, so his/her argument along with the ones citing "Per Mathmo" cannot count from much more than "I Like It" for an article about something failing to satisfy WP:N and WP:CORP. The article is, except for my edits, a copyvio from the mall owners website. It does not look very impressive in the illustration. Per the owners it has only 24,445 square meters (263126 square feet) of retail space, which in the US would make it far smaller than even a regional mall, and those have typically been deleted. The U.S. standards no longer are considered applicable to non-U.S. malls per the 2004 ICSC table (see Shopping mall). That just leaves us with a smallish mall with no references except for mostly cut and paste from the owner's website (unless the owner copied from Wikipedia).  Edison 23:26, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


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