Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albert (Isaac) Ackerman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete Ackerman, No Conesnsus on other politicians. The discussion on the other two folks is mixed, and some opinions are ambiguous respect to them; no prejudice against renomination of them individually. j⚛e deckertalk 16:51, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Albert (Isaac) Ackerman

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Minor local policitian that fails WP:POLITICIAN. Most coverage I saw was either obligatory campaign coverage or WP:Run-of-the-mill coverage of office duties. He may become notable some day, but not yet.

I am also nominating the following related pages as similarly non-notable local policiticans that fail WP:POLITICIAN and have little coverage aside from obligatory campaign coverage and run of the mill coverage of duties etc. Note that "mayor" is a committeeman selected by their peers, not as an actual election. The position is a pro tem type position.:

Niteshift36 (talk) 16:11, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
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Comment The mayor of a municipality, regardless how selected, is the chief elected official of that entity, its "head of state" if you will, and its legal and symbolic spokesperson. I do not know anything about the specific New Jersey municipality under discussion here, but I would expect that the mayor of any city of significant size is almost certainly notable. Kestenbaum (talk) 21:10, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If that were the case, WP:POLITICIAN would probably reflect that, don't you think? And no, they aren't the chief elected official. They are an elected official appointed to a position. And, this isn't a city under discussion, it's a township. Niteshift36 (talk) 13:18, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Correction It isn't a pro-tem-type mayor, but a chairman-type. This type of mayor is exceedingly common in the United States, btw. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 21:34, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Kind of a minor difference. They're not elected by the population as a mayor. They're picked by peers to essentially be a spokesman invested with the powers a mayor would have if they had an actual mayor. Niteshift36 (talk) 13:18, 16 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete (referring to Ackerman article) - does not meet WP:POLITICIAN and there is little more to impart than already covered on Lakewood_Township,_New_Jersey. Shortened content from the other 2 articles could also be added there, as neither seem to have any detailed coverage outside the local community they serve. —Baldy Bill (talk) 15:47, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  ·Add§hore·  T alk T o M e ! 00:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)


 *  Delete Ackerman / Keep Lichtenstein and Miller The article for Meir Lichtenstein makes a more than credible of notability as the first Haredi mayor of a largely non-haredi community, and the articles for both Lichtenstein and Miller are backed by appropriate sources establishing notability. The article for Ackerman doesn't meet this standard. Alansohn (talk) 20:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Alan, what am I missing with Miller? All I see is local paper stuff that is really not that significant. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:30, 22 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Ackerman as he fails WP:POLITICIAN criterion of significant coverage. I haven't yet looked into the other two and thus have no opinion about them. Majoreditor (talk) 00:26, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete local official only. Enos733 (talk) 04:28, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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