Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albert Edward (soccer)


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The result was   delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:53, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Albert Edward (soccer)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. PROD contested by the author, claiming that the player has received significant coverage to meet the notability guidelines. However, the sources appear to be routine. – Michael (talk) 21:47, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
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 * keep per WP:NFOOTBALL "Players who have played... in a fully professional league,", MLS is a "fully professional league" and he has played for them. (says the article, if that is not true then Delete) CombatWombat42 (talk) 00:03, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. WP:NSPORT require players to have actually played matches in a fully pro league (which he has not despite being drafted into the MLS), and there is insufficient significant coverage for this article to WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:54, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:NSPORTS, hasn't played in a fully professional football league. Fails WP:GNG as he hasn't been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources. Hack (talk) 05:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * keep I love how anti-soccer everyone gets here, yet anytime someone gets drafted into the NFL, they automatically get a page and many of the players (such as T. J. Johnson, Marc Anthony, Carter Bykowski, Brandon Hepburn, Jared Smith, Reid Fragel, David King) fail WP:NSPORT, yet no one cares to go on a deleting rampage against them. Prizby (talk) 16:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument, to say nothing of the fact that American football is a distinct sport so its notability rules don't enter the picture here. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:23, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Has nothing to do with what other stuff exists; has everything to do with a precedent being set that articles aren't being deleted when WP:NSPORTS has failed; until this is consistently enforced throughout wikipedia, I see absolutely no reason to make a change Prizby (talk) 07:10, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. Not notable until evidence is presented he has received significant coverage, or until he actually plays in the MLS or another fully-professional league. GiantSnowman 12:04, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, there is ample precedent that merely being in the squad is not enough, you actually have to get some game time in a fully professional league to meet the guideline. The subject hasn't done this yet, but if and when he ever plays the article can be recreated.  The alternative route to notability, that of meeting the WP:GNG, also doesn't appear to work here as I can't find anything substantial and independent on this person.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 06:35, 28 January 2014 (UTC).
 * Delete - per above, has not played in a fully professional league, nor played senior international football. Sources provided are routine and do not satisfy WP:GNG. Fenix down (talk) 11:30, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Prizby. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is merely an essay, and a poorly written one at that.  If one applied such an essay on a legal front, you'd toss precedence and common law out the window! Nfitz (talk) 02:37, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL JMHamo (talk) 16:59, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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