Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albert Shires


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   userfy to User:Bozarkian/Albert Shires. JForget 00:13, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Albert Shires

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This article fails to meet the requirements of WP:BIO and appears to be a memorial page. Searching in Google News and Google Books also fails to match any sources that might address the notability requirements. Ash (talk) 13:20, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTMEMORIAL. I never feel good about deleting pages of this nature, but there truly does not appear to be any showing of notability at all. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  14:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Surely some of his military decorations meet WP:ANYBIO? This would then become a question of referencing, not deleting? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:34, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * striking keep, per Shimgray and Xymmax's replies.Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * His military decorations were all those automatically awarded for periods of service, not for any specific achivement. I would be very surprised if they did meet the general notability requirements. Shimgray | talk | 16:36, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

(talk) 18:54, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  —Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I did check all of the awards prior to my !vote, and I agree that none appear to be personal awards for heroism/merit/excellence such as might be expected to show notability, but rather service awards as mentioned above. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  17:14, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Userfy - As the article was only created a week ago, and considering the nature of the article, I suggest moving the article to the creator's userspace so they can continue to search for sources which may address notability at some future point. Considering the creator's edit history, they may not have been aware of these options for drafting an article.—Ash (talk) 17:36, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Userfy per Ash. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:54, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Userfy per Ash. Q: How does that work exactly, will the closing admin explain to this new user how this works? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:04, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the creator would have to agree they are happy with that solution. An interesting alternative is to use the Article Incubator where other editors might be of assistance (so long as there is some potential of addressing notability).—Ash (talk) 23:31, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Userfy per Ash. Perhaps one of the best alternatives to strait deletion that I have seen recently.  If the author is able to find sources to meet notability via WP:GNG or bio, it can always be made an article again. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BIO, WP:V and WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Absolutely no disrespect intended for this man who paid the ultimate sacrifice for his country, but he just appears to have been an ordinary Canadian soldier who was killed in action. This does not assert any form of notability per Wikipedia's guidelines, particularly with the lack of sources. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 02:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.