Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albert Suarez


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Tampa Bay Rays minor league players. The Bushranger One ping only 02:50, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Albert Suarez

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PROD'd by, de-PROD'd by with no reason given. Clearly a non-notable individual at this time. Sources are lacking. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:28, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:29, 27 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Not a notable minor league player. Not notable enough for a re-direct either.--Yankees10 21:38, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge to Tampa Bay Rays minor league players per usual consensus on minor league players who aren't considered top prospects until they either reach the Majors or they leave the minor league affiliate club and retire/semi-professional/independent league and the redirect can be safely deleted in WP:RFD. Secret account 04:03, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see why we have to wait for his retirement to delete it. There are no sources whatsoever on him. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:55, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * We really don't need the minor league pages overrun by guys like this.--Yankees10 05:34, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete Why does the article claim he is on the active roster? Does anyone else see him here? AutomaticStrikeout 17:11, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe he was once on a 40 man roster. Consider the article out of date and needing an update. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:28, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think you are right. That's probably also true of a very similar AfD (Manny Alavrez (baseball)). AutomaticStrikeout 17:47, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect to Tampa Bay Rays minor league players, as he's currently a member of the A+ FSL's Charlotte Stone Crabs. If you want a couple of sources, Suarez was written up at some length in the Tampa section of Baseball America's printed 2008, 2009, and 2011 prospect guides. -208.81.148.195 (talk) 17:39, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it's been determined that those are insider publications that write up most minor leaguers, and do not constitute significant coverage. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:44, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's "been determined" by whom? They're relevant, topic-specific dead-tree publications written by experts and widely cited within the field. Much of the same material from the prospect guides also runs in their magazine, which has an extremely extensive distribution network. I understand that it's inconvenient for some of the resident deletionists that Baseball America exists, but that's not a reason to ignore it. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 14:33, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Similarly, the idea that BA's prospect guide indiscriminately covers "most" minor leaguers is laughable. Only the top 30 prospects per team are covered. Most major league teams have affiliates at AAA, AA, A+, A, R, and SS, as well as at least one (and sometimes two) overseas affiliates in the DSL and/or VSL. As such, those 30 players per year represent only a small fraction of the total players within any given team's system. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 14:36, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I said "I think". I'll look in the archives of AfD's to see if I can find what I'm thinking of. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:02, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And besides, BA is one source. GNG expects more than one. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:06, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Each book is one source. Three different years' worth of books is three sources, just like three separate profiles in the New York Times. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 01:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge to Tampa Bay Rays minor league players. Alex (talk) 01:46, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.