Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albin Gutman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There is consensus that the sources provided support the notability of the subject. (non-admin closure) Jack Frost (talk) 10:53, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Albin Gutman

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 * Articles for deletion/Afu-Ra
 * Articles for deletion/Nemanja Kojić (musician)
 * Articles for deletion/Škabo (2nd nomination)

Can someone nominate these 6 poorly sourced article, as they are not notable here Afu-Ra, Nemanja Kojić (musician), Škabo, Albin Gutman, Beogradski Sindikat, and Bad Copy as they are more likely created as a fandom. These serbian articles is very awful as you think. 23:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC) 187.189.107.24 (talk) 23:40, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Nomination on behalf of IP. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 11:47, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 11:47, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Slovakia-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 11:47, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Slovenia-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 11:47, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep WP:CSK #3. No policy-based reason for deletion, and AfD is not cleanup. Clearly notable person. No such user (talk) 12:12, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , well I /think/ the IP's reasoning should be WP:GNG since they are arguing that it's poorly sourced. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 12:31, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I can agree that the article is in a poor shape, but again, WP:NOTCLEANUP. A former Chief of the General Staff (Slovenia) certainly passes GNG with flying colors. Complete biographies can be found with a 5-minute search: Nato.int Delo. No such user (talk) 12:43, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , well these articles could be considered first-party sources, I believe. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 12:49, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Irrelevant. They are reliable and prove he is who the article says he is. Given his rank and position he obviously meets notability guidelines. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete article in no ways meets GNG. It is time for people to stop using proceduralism to preserve clearly unnotable articles. Especially considering that we do not make new articles go through the AfC process. That is what we should make articles go through. As it stands it is still occasionally possible for people to create articles without starting an account and many others create accounts with the first and only things they do being creating an article. Wikipedia needs to fix this system.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:49, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Very clearly meets WP:SOLDIER. Not only a general, but chief of his country's armed forces, as attested in reliable sources. Truly ridiculous nomination with no attempt at WP:BEFORE. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:56, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep WP:SOLDIER is just a presumption of notability, while sources aren't currently on the page he seems to have some coverage in RS, probably enough to meet WP:SIGCOV and therefore WP:GNG. Mztourist (talk) 13:39, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The article wasn't contributed, but it still passes as WP:SOLDIER. 124.123.182.61 (talk) 23:15, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:NSOLDIER as confirmed by multiple reliable sources, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:44, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.