Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albuquerque Evening High School


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The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 02:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Albuquerque Evening High School

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Fails WP:NOTE as it lacks significant coverage in sources independent of the subject. This was prodded, then merged into Albuquerque High School but that was inappropriate because literally all of the material merged was wholly unsourced. Only one-line brief mentions in news sources, zero mentions in book sources, zero mentions in scholarly sources. Cirt (talk) 16:39, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy close as out of process and revert to this version. The nominator first of all nominated a redirect then has created an article from the redirect here. If he was unhappy with the redirect he should have taken it to WP:RFD. TerriersFan (talk) 17:04, 4 December 2008
 * No, what was "out of process" was to merge completely unsourced material into another article. That was inappropriate and should not have been done. Cirt (talk) 17:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You created a nn article and then asked for it to be deleted! Redirected topics need not meet WP:N so most of the nomination is not relevant. The merged material is non-contentious and sourceable. If not happy with the merge then take it to the target talk page; if not happy with the redirect then take it to WP:RFD. TerriersFan (talk) 18:39, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Not happy with either. You should never have merged completely unsourced material into another article. This page is not notable and should be deleted. Cirt (talk) 18:44, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. Michellecrisp (talk) 00:28, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - actually delete is not possible at the moment; since content has been merged that would breach GFDL. I appreciate that the response by Cirt is likely to be that the content should not have been merged. A valid viewpoint but one that needs to be sorted on the target talk page, first. TerriersFan (talk) 01:54, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep all secondary schools are considered notable. DGG (talk) 00:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment many secondary school articles are merged/redirected to suburb articles etc. They are not always notable enough for stand alone articles. Michellecrisp (talk) 01:07, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I am not aware of them. If you would post some examples I will have a look at them. TerriersFan (talk) 01:54, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * This is not even a "secondary school". It is an "Evening High School". Cirt (talk) 01:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact that lessons take place in the evening makes this no less of a secondary school - it educates in grades 10-12; ages 15-18. What it is is an alternative high school with an innovative approach to a widespread problem. TerriersFan (talk) 01:54, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm not convinced that all high schools are notable, but this one surely passes all tests. Bearian (talk) 23:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —TerriersFan (talk) 18:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect to Albuquerque Public Schools. Since the page currently contains basic statements of fact about the school, the material can be placed in the school district article. In any case, I do not think it would be good to delete a useful redirect. --Jh12 (talk) 17:46, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment On a side note, I am unconvinced that a Google search is reliable for article notability on Wikipedia. For research on one school article, I have had to use for several years Google News, Google Books, Yahoo!, MSN, LexisNexis, JSTOR, New York Times, and countless other archives for international, national, and local libraries, universities, newspapers, and magazines that often require university subscription. Google by itself doesn't even come close to covering information about a school. --Jh12 (talk) 17:46, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - actually, I agree with Jh12 that the district would have been a better merge target. However, though I still think that we should not have been here, now we are here I see no reason not to keep the page. We can then discuss the question of merging, as an editorial matter, later. TerriersFan (talk) 01:54, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - easily passes my standards for high schools. Has been around a long time, well-known in New Mexico, plenty of good cites are available, and is in fact a secondary school. [[User:Bearian|Bearian (talk) 23:36, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


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