Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alcorconazo (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. –MuZemike 22:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Alcorconazo
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like page deleted Boqueronazo. El Unique (talk) 10:45, 7 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Strong oppose, wanting a page deleted because you "want it deleted" is not a grounds for deletion here on wikipedia. Routerone (See here!) 10:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * What exactly are you opposing here, the nomination itself? Yoenit (talk) 11:49, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Term seems to have become a synonym for an unexpected victory of a weak team over a much stronger team in the spanish media, as you can see from articles like  and . Definitely more than routine sports news and worthy of it's own article. Yoenit (talk) 11:49, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * As like reasons used to delete Alcorconazo page.--El Unique (talk) 13:23, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The difference should be obvious if you compare the gnews hitcount of both terms: 328 for "Alcorconazo", 2  for "Boqueronazo". Yoenit (talk) 13:35, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. There's some evidence that the term was notable beyond just the game, as Yoenit indicates. Gnews hits are worthless for determining notability, but the fact that there are articles several months after the game that still use the term indicates some moderate notability. I also think the rationale here for deletion is flawed - that article and this one are different, and one deletion does not precedent make. This article should be evaluated on the merits, not because another one was deleted. I will say, though, that we need a bit of a rewrite here. But that's an editing issue, as indicated. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 20:23, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:47, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Just another football game. So the underdog won... like that's never happened before. Smacks of recentism, and there seems to be a lot of discussion on keeping because it has become synonomous with the underdog winning. The article is written only about this game, not about the synonym, which would fail as a neologism anyway. Coverage of this game is no more or less than any coverage expected of a football game where a bit of an upset has occurred making it sports coverage of a general nature, nothing notable. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia that covers notable subjects. -- Club Oranje T 00:45, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 14:51, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as per ClubOranje, fails WP:NTEMP. GiantSnowman 14:53, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * How does this fail WP:NTEMP when it is still discussed in the media? For example: and, both results from the last two weeks. Seems like WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE to me. Yoenit (talk) 15:39, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete – For us to have an article on an individual soccer match (assuming it's not a final of some sort), there should be some sort of persistent coverage that goes a step beyond brief mentions. I see no evidence of that here.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 15:32, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - this article seems to indicate that the term "Alcorconazo" is being used as a footballing term, perhaps the Spanish equivalent of "giant-killing". Other GNews hits show the same. This article should be expanded to emphasise this.  Bettia  (talk)  18:03, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep the term alcorconazo alone received sustained coverage as demonstrated in last AfD. Ipso facto the match itself has received more than sustained coverage. Sandman888 (talk) 18:18, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep appears to meet GNG, event has received media coverage some time after the actual match. Eldumpo (talk) 11:18, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * ''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


 * Keep - I completely disagree with the intent to delete articles because some users will angry others or want to keep a page to harass opponents. This page should not be deleted because of Boqueronazo was eliminated in retaliation, this should be a serious encyclopedia and not motivated to feelings of some editors. It should restore Boqueronazo page and people which dislike it not visit. I am fan of Real Madrid but I don't like that people edit in this wiki by fanaticism, one must be as objective, not create articles to harass, nor to compensate or deleted as retaliation, I like the serious things and I always try to edit objectivity and not get carried away by my sympathy to certain clubs Raul-Reus (talk) 2:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC+1)