Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aled Wynne Jones


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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:53, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Aled Wynne Jones

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I was unable to find any independent coverage of the subject in online sources. The citations provided do not mention him either. Fails the notability criterion for academics and for people in general. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:08, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment - Hello Dianna, thanks for the edit. Apologogies, it is my first Wiki page and still have to get use to the metrics for approval. I have just added two newspapers articles as citations to the article. I can find more of those but not sure what you mean with independent coverage of the sources. Does this have to be specifically mentioning the subject of the page for approval? Many thanks for your kind availability. RobertoPasqualino


 * Comment - What we need to establish notability is multiple sources that are independent of the subject and provide in-depth coverage (not just brief mentions) of their career or activities. Here's where to find information on our notability guidelines for people: Notability (people). Specifics regarding academics are at Notability (academics). — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:37, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment - Thank you for the fast response. I will review and add all necessary reference tomorrow hoping they match Wikipedia criteria for notable people. Regards RobertoPasqualino —Preceding undated comment added 13:49, 11 September 2017 (UTC)  — RobertoPasqualino (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete - Fails to establish WP:N. red dogsix (talk) 15:04, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment - Some key references to assure the page is approved for Wikipedia requirements have been added. Could someone please this is good for now? RobertoPasqualino (talk) 10:24, 12 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment - Thanks all. I have now added several independent sources including UK Government, the Honorary Fellowship with the Institute of Actuaries and President Clinton distinguished lecture series aledjones gsi (talk) 13:32, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The new citation http://www.sustainabilityexchange.ac.uk/green_gown_awards_2015_sustainability_professio5 does show Jones won a Sustainability Professional Award from the Sustainabiliy Exchange but I'm not sure this is enough to establish notability.
 * The new citation https://www.foodsecurity.ac.uk/activities/climatic-shocks-food-system-resilience/ does not mention the subject of the article.
 * The new citation https://www.foodsecurity.ac.uk/publications/resilience-taskforce-sub-report-annex-b-review-responses-food-production-shocks.pdf shows he did author this report but writing a report is not the same thing as in-depth coverage in a source independent of the subject of the article.
 * The new citation https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/principles-for-investment-grade-policy-and-projects does mention Jones but does not offer any in-depth coverage, only mentions him as author of a report
 * The new citation https://www.actuaries.org.uk/about-us/recognition-prizes-and-awards/honorary-fellows-election-2017 does show Jones was named an honorary fellow of the Institute and Faculty of Actuaries
 * The new citation https://www.thersa.org/ does not mention Jones and does not back up the assertion that he is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:22, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete does not pass any guidelines for the notability of academics.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:58, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Onel 5969  TT me 20:46, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:49, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:49, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Waiting for analysis and more input.
 * Comment. This BLP is a mighty mess created by an spa. There are claims of copyvio. I won't be commenting further until traceable citation data are supplied. Does the creator have any WP:COI? I vote Delete unless clarification of these points is produced. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:35, 19 September 2017 (UTC).
 * Comment - I made some minor improvements to tone down the promotionalism. I don't know enough about UK academia or governmental agencies to judge whether any of these accomplishments are routine or not, but @DGG will. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  18:53, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L3X1 (distænt write)  02:08, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. We don't have evidence of high citations to point to, so the only path to notability seems to be WP:PROF, fellowship in scholarly societies for which this is a high honor. Our article lists three fellowships, but are they honors for scholarly work? I think FRSA is based more on arts patronage than scholarship, and its number of fellows is too high for it to be a high honor. FHEA is based on teaching not scholarship. And regarding FIA, Institute and Faculty of Actuaries states that it is based on passing some examinations and three years of work experience, so it is also far from the high scholarly honor we are looking for. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:36, 29 September 2017 (UTC)


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