Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Bellini


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The result was   delete. v/r - TP 03:08, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Alex Bellini

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Promotional biography of a questionably notable person. The main claim to fame here is that Bellini is the first person ever to have crossed both the Atlantic and the Pacific solo by rowboat, but as discussed at Talk:Alex Bellini, the evidence indicates that his Pacific crossing attempt failed, belying his main claim to fame. Other claims of notability are that he has competed in some marathons (but not necessarily excelled at them), which doesn't really meet the mark of WP:ATHLETE. Article appears to be a WP:COATRACK on which to hang an ad for his consulting company. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:53, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment The claim of being the first to cross both oceans has been removed from the article (by the article's original author), based on its disputed status. This does not change the basis of this AFD nomination.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:25, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment. Several of the sources cited don't appear to support the statements made. This ref for the  New York City Marathon is labelled 'Official Results', but simply leads to the front page for this year's marathon. This result  states that he came 5th, not third (and the name of the event isn't the same as given in the article). The Marathon des Sables website  appears not to show past results or entrants (or if it does, they aren't publicly  accessible). Unless proper third-party sourcing can be found, these claims will have to be removed - as will material sourced to Bellini's own website. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:11, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Simply competing, even in extreme events, is not enough to demonstrate notability. This individual has, as best as I can tell, won no events, set no records, nor been the first to complete any significant achievements. The one piece of significant independent coverage is the NBC article about, basically, not successfully rowing across the Pacific; that seems like the sort of "human interest" story that doesn't strongly indicate notability absent other factors. Lastly, at the risk of failing to assume good faith, some of the article's claims seem ... well, rather harder to verify than they should be. AndyTheGrump already noted that the article previously had the wrong finishing position in the Alaska UltraSport 1000 mile event. I'm not able to get the NYC Marathon's official site to cooperate with me for results, but its records are mirrored by several third-party marathon trackers, and I cannot find their name in any of them as a 2000 finisher (even with a stated time that would only put him in the top 7000 male competitors). I agree with the nominator's assertion that this is fundamentally serving as a promotional piece. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 20:45, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:23, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:23, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Per Squeamish Ossifrage above, there seems not to be the in-depth coverage from third-party reliable sources to indicate that Bellini meets the criteria necessary to establish notability in Wikipedia's terms. While competing in extreme endurance sports is to be admired, it isn't in itself something that meets Notability (sports) guidelines, and (again per Squeamish Ossifrage), the coverage of the aborted Pacific attempt isn't sufficient to pass more general notability criteria. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:49, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
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