Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Caldwell


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. Johnleemk | Talk 10:35, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Alex Caldwell
Delete Hoax article. Claimed that Caldwell is a "prolific novelist, poet and short story writer, Caldwell has been described as one of the most original writers and thinkers of the 21st century.", yet "Alex Caldwell"+"Original Writers" gives no hits on google, "Alex Caldwell"+Poetry gives 163 hits (most of the words nowhere near each other), and there are no sources quoted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam Vimes (talk • contribs) 14:20, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I believe this is the real name of a writer who uses a psuedonym...can't remember who at this moment. And I'm sure the birthdate is wrong at least.

Isn't this the real name of JT Leroy? I got here from the Morrissey page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.107.228.47 (talk • contribs) 14:31, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete as unverifiable vanity & possible hoax. No meaningful Google or Incywincy hits for search strings as described above. No entries at Amazon or British Library. Eddie.willers 16:49, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Why is this page being disputed? I just finished his latest poetry book. He's a new writer and I need some more info for my coursework if anyone can expand the page, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.107.232.61 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 8 December 2005 (UTC) This is not a hoax. He comes from a long line of writers/poets/political thinkers. His father R Caldwell has realesed one the most influential books of poems of his time, 'This Being Eden', Alex himself has published much much more. I recently met him at a book signing for his new book John Smitham. He is an English Dandy. Denying his brilliance would be criminal! More proof http://www.peterloopoets.com/html/stocklist_27.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.245.111.133 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems like vanity, the name doesn't really turn up anything on google. One would think that a prolific and influential thinker would be able to have a few third party references, but Alex doesn't even get a listing on Amazon for his great work (unless he's writing about Forensics and Malaria and then being the 2.5 millionth best seller really doesn't amount to a hill of beans in our wiki world). DeathThoreau 02:26, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn-bio/vanity. Stifle 23:38, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The fact that his father was a notable poet does not make any info on the son automatically true without a source. Please read WP:V Sam Vimes 22:36, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

This page may be a little vain, but it's not a hoax. This guy has a volume of poetry called 'Silent Nightlife' out which is actually on my bookshelf right now and he's had various pieces in the Times Lit Supplement. I met him at an Ottakars evening in Norwich a few months ago where he read a story. His father is Roger Caldwell as somebody said above. This isn't a hoax, even if he isn't cross referenced on google yet. (YET is the opperative word!) MisterMike
 * If you've got the book handy, then reach over and look up the ISBN for us then, will you? That would help immensely. --Calton | Talk 07:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)


 * You'd think a 21-year-old writer brilliant enough to deserve an article might leave some trace of himself, wouldn't you? Delete as hoax/vanity unless otherwise proven. --Calton | Talk 07:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

There seems to be a bit of jealousy on your part. This man is brilliant and yet only 21. He has not embraced the internet despite making his political views forth right on certain pages at the tender age of 15. Showing a greater understanding of the world than anyone after an international book code. Watch TV in Britain and you will see him. Only last may was he on Newsnight review. Do not delete, do not deny his brilliance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.245.111.133 (talk • contribs) 13:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Only last may was he on Newsnight review. No, he wasn't. 27 May edition, 20 May edition 13 May edition. None of these pages mention Caldwell... Sam Vimes 14:09, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

He was on Newsnight Review? Wow, I've only ever seen him on the Daily Politics a few times. I'm pretty sure I saw Caldwell at a signing. His father is Roger Caldwell who signed with Peterloo Poets earlier this year. His grandfather was W. Alex Caldwell who did indeed reesearch malaria and help find a cure. I just did a quick search for you lazy people and found a highly insightful article written for the Social Review in 1999 regarding the Kosovo conflict - http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/sr233/letters.htm It just came to mind that at the signing he declared himself an 'internet sceptic' but I assure my fellow Wikipedians he does exist and the profile is accurate, although I can't confirm the Baltic or bass guitar items. Case closed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.107.232.43 (talk • contribs) 13:49, 13 December 2005 (UTC)


 * "Written for"? He wrote a letter to the Social Review, more like. Which, still, appears to be the only verifiable information at hand here on the person himself (his father is not up for deletion), and is not even mentioned in the article. Oh, and please sign your posts using ~ Sam Vimes 14:09, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Tell me did you even know what the social review was at the age of 15. How many novels, volumes of poetry, beautiful short stories had you churned out by the age of 21. Wikipedia is just the start for this internet sceptic. It is important he is recognised on the internet not just amongst book worms and the political academics of the world over. −Signed MysÊlf

Comment. ROGER Caldwell's work 'This Being Eden' is listed in the British Library catalogue. I would accept this as irrefutable proof of its commercial publication. However, ALEX Caldwell's work is not listed - which means it either doesn't exist or it is a vanity publication. Hence, caldwell junior cannot be said to be notable for his literary output. Eddie.willers 01:37, 15 December 2005 (UTC)


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