Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Epstein (screenwriter)


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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Lourdes  16:41, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Alex Epstein (screenwriter)

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The sources do not prove notability as per WP:NAUTHOR or WP:GNG. 1 is the subject's own website, 2 is IMDB and 3 is the subject's own blog. The only marginally useful source that I could find in a WP:BEFORE search was but as this is an WP:INTERVIEW it is a primary source and not helpful to prove notability. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:18, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... as stated, Epstein is a recognized industry figure with a verifiable body work that has been recognized as notable and worthy of documenting by Wikipedia beforehand in other pages. In addition, other writer-teachers have been allowed articles here before, such Blake Snyder, Robert McKee and Syd Field, so I fail to see why this piece should be singled out for deletion. And no, the relevant cited guidelines do not disprove this.SavageEditor (talk) 15:28, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Each article is judged on the notability of its subject according to the sources produced and found. The sources do not show notability and this has nothing to do with the notability of any other article similar or not. That said if you feel the other articles do not show notability please feel free to nominate them. Dom from Paris (talk) 16:05, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * He didn't tell you anything about "feeling" like that. --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 16:22, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO and WP:FILMMAKER. Unable to locate any significant biographical information in reliable secondary sources.  Magnolia677 (talk) 09:42, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Here's some "any significant biographical information in reliable secondary sources": (for example). Here;s also some more recent bio info along with accomplishments:  --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 16:22, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. He's being referenced in industry literature (by which i mean the literature that isn't his own) and one of his books was enthusiastically endorsed by Ken Levine (screenwriter) as "everything you need plus talent". That's in addition to his own fiction-writing work. A frivolous nomination. To the nominator: try searching like that (disregard the obvious other Alex Epsteins of course) next time. --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 16:22, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice but still not convinced that he makes the grade as per WP:FILMMAKER or WP:NAUTHOR or GNG. The sources are not in-depth coverage as is required. The writer's guide was a self published book  so not what I would call a reliable secondary source. An endorsement of your book by someone famous is nice but a bit thin to show notability as an author I think. But if you have some in depth coverage that I was unable to find before my frivolous nomination I'll be happy to have a look. Dom from Paris (talk) 17:14, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment Added the awards (nominations and wins) and also video game credits among other things. You're welcome. --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 17:22, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * CommentThe article is now 2x longer and also renamed (it was misnamed). SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 19:00, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It is longer (but I believe size doesn't matter thank heavens) but the sources are still too weak. The review of his book is not enough to show he passes WP:NAUTHOR and the WP:Interviews are primary sources so not useful to show notabilty and his own blogs and websites aren't either. I still think it's too weak. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:56, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The notability is from being an author of notable works (meaning films, series, and video games, and not just any "his book") and winning or being nominated to awards. And even just his latest work will give you so many interviews: https://www.google.pl/search?q="alex+epstein"+"we+happy+few"&num=50&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 19:47, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I concur with this. Furthermore, while pages are individually reviewed, I do believe the fact that much of Epstein's work has been deemed notable enough, by Wiki guidelines, to warrant individual pages surely must have some bearing on the worth of this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SavageEditor (talk • contribs) 14:54, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 14:47, 11 July 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 15:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
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