Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Eroadster


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. With no prejudice against recreation if and when more coverage establishes notability.  So Why  09:25, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Alex Eroadster

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Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, in particular "Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements and rumors". Almost all sources I found were from June/July 2015, and predicted full production for 2016. The only recent reference appears to be yet another press-release reprint in a small local paper, now predicting 2018/19 production. The photos seem to be fake - there has been no prototype, the road markings are not Irish, there is nobody in the car, it has no registration plates. The project seems to have been student vapourware. &mdash; Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 09:13, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete as per nom. Pictures are either taken from their website or from local news reports, I have reported one as a copyvio. Website doesn't look to promising as appears to be out of date. I however disagree with the term "student vapourware" as their website says the design belongs to an automotive engineer specialising in electric cars. Nördic   Nightfury  08:28, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


 * *** Object to deletion : The project is definitely live and ongoing with fundraising currently going on to progress the project. A prototype is planned for May 2018 as in citation (4) The longford Leader.  The photos are not fake?  They are CAD renders in Catia in other words images from drawings as there wont be a prototype completed until May 2018.Janoteki (talk) 10:43, 20 June 2017 (UTC) — Janoteki (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * As a matter of interest, I can't find anything in your website about a factory or any premises at all. Not even a postal address. How do you propose to build a prototype, never mind operate a production line, without a factory? And why is your project now being ignored by the mainstream motoring press? Is a press-release reprint in the Longford Leader (a small-town weekly) the best you can do? Why would anybody have faith that the deposits you are asking them to pay will not just be money down the drain? &mdash; Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 07:25, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - All four of the sources showing in the footnotes count towards GNG as substantial, independently-published articles of presumed accuracy dealing substantially with the subject. Bad AfD challenge all the way. The fact that the product is not yet on the market does not indicate that this is a "crystal ball" exercise; it is a product in development with a noteworthy history of that development. Even if it was to be cancelled tomorrow, that product history, covered in multiple media sources, would be sufficient to fulfill our GNG. Carrite (talk) 01:05, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - While my initial reaction was to suggest that this was/is a case of WP:TOOSOON, there is perhaps an argument that GNG is at least partially met. (I would note however that much of the coverage which contributes to that GNG argument, including this BBC Autos piece, all seems to build on the same flurry of PR activity in 2015; and as such would seem to fall short of WP:CORPDEPTH). If the article is kept (and I'm not strongly advocating either way), it needs significant review relative to the PR tone of the content. And flagging with   - given that's the speculated release date of this planned/proposed/as-yet-unrealised product. (Or at least its first real-world prototype). Guliolopez (talk) 01:25, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:12, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep for now per Guilolopez's comment d.g. L3X1  (distænt write)   )evidence(  15:09, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete there are some PR pieces, but no coverage of the car itself or the parent company. The only coverage is of projected mockups/demos. Power~enwiki (talk) 17:59, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- WP:TOOSOON. No in-depth sources or encyclopedic relevance just yet. This is demonstrated by the fact that the article copy has to rely on the manufacturer's claims, as in:
 * "The manufacturers say that it saves a lot of weight by use of lightweight materials including its integrated carbon fibre chassis." Etc.
 * K.e.coffman (talk) 05:53, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:40, 3 July 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Last relisting, probably will end with No Consensus, but we'll see.
 * Keep I agree with Carrite that with the four references currently in the article it meets and passes WP:GNG and should be kept. Lacypaperclip (talk) 05:19, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L3X1 (distænt write)   )evidence(  19:52, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom: lack of WP:SUSTAINED coverage past the 2015 flurry, the only exception is from a low circulation local weekly paper (~7000 copies). WP:TOOSOON at best. If this were a real thing to be released next year, you'd expect more. - GretLomborg (talk) 20:46, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as it seems to be a proposed project where enough details to write an article are not available. There are no release dates or any specifications about the car, so it is hard to verify the information.--DreamLinker (talk) 18:01, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


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