Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Hartman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The strongest arguments here relate to the promotional nature of the article. j⚛e deckertalk 20:51, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Alex Hartman

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Spam. Promotion, which was until recently complete with happy snaps with celebrities, for Hartmans current ventures. This, like other adverts for Hartman related ventures, was built by single purpose accounts using Wikipedia for advertising around Matilda Media (eg Newzulu, Citizenside, Digital Museum of Australia, The Cracks). Hartman may be notable for Young Australian of the Year Award for Career Achievement and Amicus Software but this article just touches on those aspects and instead promotes and linkspams current projects. Sourcing is woeful, mainly just linkspamming to his projects, links to organisations websites and promotional pieces. This should be blown away. Improve Wikipedia by getting rid of spam, stop rewarding bad faith editing. See related afds Articles for deletion/Matilda Media Articles for deletion/Rightstrade, Articles for deletion/RightsCloud Articles for deletion/Peter Scarf for more of their advertising. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:02, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:03, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

— Afpresse (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete He has done nothing that makes him notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:57, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Currently notable for work with major global news organizations including those noted above and has received substantial coverage in reliable independent sources over many years after receiving a major award from the Commonwealth Government of Australia recognizing his notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afpresse (talk • contribs) 00:39, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Afpresse as in Agence France-Presse? An organization who has made a deal with Hartman and whose connection you have promoted here? If that's so that is one of multiple corporate named account dedicating to promoting the interests of Hartman. Digitalmuseum, Filmonair, Rightstrade, Headspace3, Mmedia2012. Most of the other many accounts that exist purely to promote Hartman and his interest are not as obviously badly named. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:57, 7 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete I encountered this article, but since it for some reason had no afd template, I did not realize this was at AfD, and simply placed a "News release" template on it. An ip editor removed it, and upon seeing that I decided to bring it here (only to find it was already here), because I think it is too promotional for a WP article, considering also the very borderline notability. The combination of the two is a good reason for deletion. I especially note the extended discussion praising the work of one of the subjects companies.   If someone wants to try to write a satisfactory article, they would need to start over -- after first reading and understanding WP:Reliable sources. I am not at all sure that even the best editing here could make an adequate case for notability , but it would have more of ca chance is this is totally removed to start with.
 * In particular, Young Australian of the Year is not a notable award. Probably half the recipients are not notable ,and the ones who are, are notable for the work they have done in later years, not the work they did when they were just starting out. We should regard it, like other youth awards, as meaning not yet notable.  DGG ( talk ) 02:33, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hartman didn't even win Young Australian of the Year (20011 was James Fitzpatrick (Australia) see list). He won one of the lesser known sub categories, for Career Achievement. . duffbeerforme (talk) 12:07, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The article is clear on the Career Achievement category he won. There are no greater or lesser categories of this award according to the official site for the awards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.164.179.98 (talk) 18:07, 7 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Hartman has continued as a public business figure and entrepreneur in Australia and elsewhere since the award. Article evidences appointment of subject to several notable national industry and charity governing bodies by the current Prime Minister of Australia supporting ongoing and current notability as referenced by the article. Subject appeared on major Australian documentary shows including Australian Story and 60 Minutes as referenced which support notability in Australia when article originated at the time some 5 years ago.  Ausstory2000 — Preceding undated comment added 03:48, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * A business and entrepreneur for the likes of Newzulu, Citizenside, Digital Museum of Australia and Matilda Media? Where is the evidence of appointment by Abbot to these several notable bodies? It appears Hartman was on Australian Story talking about himself (not independent coverage about him) but the link supported does not support the claim he was on 60 minutes and if he was we don't know the nature of that appearance. Both Australian story and talkbalk provided related to 60 minutes occurred around the time of Young Australian of the Year Award for Career Achievement and Amicus Software, both of which this advert puts aside to focus on his new endeavors. None make any mention of these new projects that are continually being spammed here. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:19, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

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 * Keep Notable for involvement in Headspace national government mental health services in Australia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.164.179.98 (talk) 17:53, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Backer of global citizen journalism news service Citizenside — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.46.4.122 (talk) 21:10, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * delete fails WP:BIO, his achievements dont meet the bar. a self promotion piece indicated by the whole swarm of single purpose editors who have swarmed to this AfD. LibStar (talk) 07:57, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Article needs work but have fact checked references. Notable to freelance journalists worldwide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.185.1.130 (talk) 14:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Need it! Wiki article and story are in course work on citizen journalism for my class at MU this semester! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.121.228.2 (talk) 18:27, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.